2020-08-19T02:20:38  *** okurz_ is now known as okurz
2020-08-19T07:22:20  <adrianS> moin
2020-08-19T07:22:37  <adrianS> pjessen: moin
2020-08-19T07:47:39  <pjessen> adrianS: morgen
2020-08-19T07:51:13  <adrianS> pjessen: shall I help you searching on pontifex? But I have not really a clue either :)
2020-08-19T07:58:21  <pjessen> hmm, two clueless ...
2020-08-19T07:58:49  <pjessen> I looked at fstab and what is currently bind-mounted,
2020-08-19T08:00:04  <pjessen> anyone else here who might have an idea?
2020-08-19T08:00:38  <cboltz> depends - about which problem are you talking? ;-)
2020-08-19T08:02:04  <pjessen> pontifex:  how to make content from ftp-stage/ visible in ftp/
2020-08-19T08:02:16  <pjessen> it sounds like a bind mount
2020-08-19T08:02:37  <pjessen> and we have examples of that too - leap 15.2 microos
2020-08-19T08:03:39  <cboltz> right, there are several bind mounts
2020-08-19T08:04:02  <cboltz> I'd guess that adding another bind mount shouldn't be a problem
2020-08-19T08:04:16  <pjessen> yeah, doing the same for jump would solve the problem, but I'm just not sure it is correct.
2020-08-19T08:04:33  <adrianS> how is it done for leap 15.2 ftp tree?
2020-08-19T08:04:48  <pjessen> adrianS: exactly the question I had
2020-08-19T08:05:13  <pjessen> hardlink maybe ?
2020-08-19T08:06:56  <adrianS> yep
2020-08-19T08:07:02  <adrianS> they are ...
2020-08-19T08:07:08  <pjessen> aha!
2020-08-19T08:07:39  <cboltz> so someone picked the least obvious way ;-)  - nice.
2020-08-19T08:08:01  <adrianS> the point is that the content should only appear after some time
2020-08-19T08:08:09  <adrianS> after it got distributed to the mirrors
2020-08-19T08:08:17  <pjessen> right.
2020-08-19T08:08:26  <adrianS> so I suspect it somewhere in the mirror scanning scripts maybe?
2020-08-19T08:09:31  <pjessen> hmm, maybe.  I'll take a look
2020-08-19T08:16:06  <pjessen> I'm not finding anything. Maybe it really is done manually ?
2020-08-19T08:17:53  <adrianS> maybe ... who would have done this? Lubos obviously didn't know about it ....
2020-08-19T08:18:18  <pjessen> ludwig would probably know.
2020-08-19T08:21:56  <adrianS> I am asking him ...
2020-08-19T08:22:58  <adrianS> https://github.com/openSUSE/publish_distro
2020-08-19T08:23:01  <adrianS> is his answer
2020-08-19T08:23:16  <adrianS> should be in ~mirror
2020-08-19T08:25:11  <adrianS> okay, seems we just need to add a jump config...
2020-08-19T08:25:29  <adrianS> bah, last edited by lubos ...
2020-08-19T08:28:39  <pjessen> ~/publish_distro/ ?
2020-08-19T08:33:28  <pjessen> bin/publish_mirror is clearly where the hardlink happens.
2020-08-19T08:58:33  <adrianS> I will create a pull request ...
2020-08-19T09:02:26  <adrianS> https://github.com/openSUSE/publish_distro/pull/5
2020-08-19T09:13:55  <lcp> pjessen: I assume https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/55838 is now our problem?
2020-08-19T09:24:38  <pjessen> lcp: will check
2020-08-19T09:25:08  <pjessen> lcp: oh i see. yup, that's now our problem.
2020-08-19T09:26:21  <lcp> I'm not seeing more spam than before, but I was looking through the tickets to close as much as possible, and stumbled upon that
2020-08-19T09:30:40  <pjessen> I'm tempted to ask the reporter if the situation has improved.
2020-08-19T09:51:54  <pjessen> done
2020-08-19T10:11:03  <lcp> cboltz: hm there are those two irc cloak requests hanging around, who would be able to handle that
2020-08-19T10:12:36  <m4u9> one of them would be mine :)
2020-08-19T10:13:59  <lcp> noah isn't here, so can't really complain about it ;)
2020-08-19T10:43:09  <cboltz> lcp, m4u9: I'm afraid they are burried under my TODO list ;-)
2020-08-19T10:43:30  <m4u9> \o/
2020-08-19T10:43:51  <cboltz> m4u9: additional mail address setup, it should become active in the next hours
2020-08-19T10:45:07  <cboltz> for your IRC cloak - usually we keep the IRC cloak the same as the username, therefore I'd prefer not to change your cloak
2020-08-19T10:45:28  <cboltz> however, exceptions are possible, so if you really want m4u9 in your cloak, I'll get it done
2020-08-19T10:46:11  <m4u9> it’s ok keep the username. but can my freenode nickname be changed in connect?
2020-08-19T10:46:52  <cboltz> yes, of course - done
2020-08-19T10:47:23  <m4u9> awesome thank you cboltz :)
2020-08-19T10:48:32  <cboltz> you are welcome ;-)
2020-08-19T10:51:02  <cboltz> lcp: I just gave you more permissions on progress so that you can delete spam tickets
2020-08-19T10:51:35  <cboltz> (yes, delete - because that's the only way to avoid sending out a mail to the [probably faked] sender address)
2020-08-19T11:01:41  <lcp> thanks!
2020-08-19T11:21:34  <cboltz> lkocman: you might be interested in https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70072
2020-08-19T11:31:37  <lkocman> lkocman, I'll check
2020-08-19T11:32:26  <lkocman> You are not authorized to access this page.
2020-08-19T11:32:33  <lkocman> this is admin queue right?
2020-08-19T11:32:39  <lkocman> issues are by default restricted
2020-08-19T11:33:55  <cboltz> public now
2020-08-19T11:34:56  <lkocman> thank you
2020-08-19T11:35:07  <lkocman> ah nice! an extra feedback
2020-08-19T11:35:09  <lkocman> let me add it to our wiki
2020-08-19T11:36:35  <lkocman> I still did not finish creation of all action items in progress to much stuff going around. But I have high hopes for this week
2020-08-19T11:40:23  <robin_listas> cboltz: on the connect platform, if we delete a spammer, he comes back. If we ban him, he can't. So we ban them.
2020-08-19T11:41:14  <cboltz> I know ;-)
2020-08-19T11:41:26  <robin_listas> :-)
2020-08-19T11:41:39  <cboltz> the difference is that spam on progress gets sent as mail to admin@, and spammers rarely re-use a sender mail address
2020-08-19T11:42:04  <robin_listas> Ugh
2020-08-19T11:42:06  <cboltz> which also means I only do the extra work of banning a mail address if it was used to create multiple spam tickets
2020-08-19T11:43:44  <robin_listas> The good news is that spam on connect is now boringly low. Perhaps the word has spread out that it doesn't work ;-)
2020-08-19T11:44:06  <cboltz> :-)
2020-08-19T12:49:16  <ruchlos> spammers gotta optimize that spam to profit conversion rate, you know :D
2020-08-19T13:09:07  <lcp> spam on connect will be entirely gone when connect is gone
2020-08-19T13:23:43  <lkocman> Hello admins, I just realized that the progress-o-o gantt is crashing for me. https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/leap_152/issues/gantt (check all states). But for some reason it works with 15.1 gantt view https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/leap_151/issues/gantt?utf8=%E2%9C%93&set_filter=1&f%5B%5D=status_id&op%5Bstatus_id%5D=*&f%5B%5D=&months=10&month=8&year=2020&zoom=2
2020-08-19T13:24:28  <lkocman> any idea and is it worth raising? I suspect that this is tied to having all tasks resolved. I'm fine with this as long as I don't hit this issue with next Leap.
2020-08-19T13:26:01  <lkocman> hmm but if you set custom dates then it crashes as well
2020-08-19T14:01:16  <lcp> please report it, somebody will look into it at some point
2020-08-19T21:45:57  <lcp> cboltz: huh, community machine was the same as boosters machine at some point, hosting anything and everything, eh?
2020-08-19T21:46:50  <cboltz> yes, that describes those old machines quite well
2020-08-19T21:47:08  <cboltz> and of course you won't find any documentation about their config and usage ;-)
2020-08-19T21:49:51  <cboltz> I _hope_ that we have all current tasks of those machines listed in pillar/id/, but I wouldn't be surprised if we missed something
2020-08-19T21:50:04  <lcp> the setup is quite insane when it comes to the vhosts in /srv/www/vhosts tbh
2020-08-19T21:50:35  <lcp> I'm so confused why webtest is just www.o.o but hosted somewhere else tbh
2020-08-19T21:51:02  <cboltz> good question, give me a minute to check that
2020-08-19T21:52:31  <cboltz> frontend http-ext-in
2020-08-19T21:52:32  <cboltz>     acl is_webtest             hdr(host)     -i webtest.opensuse.org
2020-08-19T21:52:33  <cboltz>     use_backend community        if is_webtest
2020-08-19T21:52:55  <cboltz> so webtest.o.o is indeed still served by community.i.o.o
2020-08-19T21:54:56  <lcp> it is, and its vhost contents are the same as landing_page repository by the looks of it, so it works just fine
2020-08-19T21:55:14  <lcp> I'm more curious why tbh
2020-08-19T21:56:37  <cboltz> IIRC the old www.o.o server in Provo ran the deploy cronjob only every two hours (or so), so there was a small time window to test changes if you knew the schedule
2020-08-19T21:57:27  <lcp> ah, well, that can probably be dropped then
2020-08-19T21:57:43  <lcp> community.opensuse.org is interesting by itself
2020-08-19T21:58:15  <cboltz> right, dropping webtest is something I also just wanted to propose ;-)
2020-08-19T21:58:33  <cboltz> the only interesting question is: is it accessed often enough to become a redirect?
2020-08-19T21:59:21  <lcp> I could check that in a second
2020-08-19T21:59:28  <cboltz> I just did ;-)
2020-08-19T21:59:34  <lcp> welp
2020-08-19T21:59:57  <cboltz> the access log has 2635 lines - since 03/Jan/2020
2020-08-19T22:00:37  <cboltz> so I guess just dropping that domain without any redirect won't upset too many people ;-)
2020-08-19T22:00:45  <lcp> right
2020-08-19T22:01:35  <lcp> I wonder if it makes sense to even host https://community.opensuse.org/ebooks
2020-08-19T22:02:02  <lcp> that should probably be somewhere else, since it is basically just historical artifacts at this point
2020-08-19T22:02:45  <cboltz> indeed, that's *very* historical ;-)
2020-08-19T22:02:48  <lcp> and well, meeting logs will have to be transported together with bugbot
2020-08-19T22:02:54  <lcp> that's all community.o.o does
2020-08-19T22:03:20  <lcp> there is also www.opensuse.org here o.o
2020-08-19T22:04:15  <cboltz> right, community.o.o/ redirects to www.o.o (but /ebooks and /meetings don't redirect)
2020-08-19T22:04:25  <lcp> yup
2020-08-19T22:05:01  <lcp> https://education.opensuse.org generally is a redirect to a dead wiki portal, and a download page
2020-08-19T22:05:12  <lcp> we should probably just axe the entire thing
2020-08-19T22:05:16  <cboltz> for the records: webtest.o.o dropped from the haproxy config, and I'll also drop it from DNS (was CNAME proxy.o.o)
2020-08-19T22:08:03  <cboltz> AFAIK education-related packages are still maintained in OBS, so maybe the better solution would be to update the wiki page
2020-08-19T22:08:20  <cboltz> drop mentions of the "education distro", and focus only on the packages?
2020-08-19T22:09:05  <cboltz> (and maybe talk to Lars, because he did lots of work in this area and might have more insight)
2020-08-19T22:09:18  <lcp> alright, so that's a topic for later
2020-08-19T22:10:03  <lcp> maintenance is next, a whole bunch of fallbacks for when services are down for maintenance
2020-08-19T22:10:18  <lcp> shows some generic page
2020-08-19T22:10:46  <lcp> that should probably be done by proxy and not this server (and I doubt anything uses this method anymore anyway)
2020-08-19T22:12:03  <cboltz> right, the "under maintenance" page (which basically means "service is down") is served by haproxy
2020-08-19T22:12:42  <cboltz> but individual services (and servers) can still serve error pages if they are up and "just" broken
2020-08-19T22:13:00  <lcp> so it would all mean that all that's left on community is doc and bugbot with meetings logs
2020-08-19T22:13:20  <lcp> I will move those old ebooks to github repo in a second :/
2020-08-19T22:14:19  <lcp> any ideas where the best place to host bugbot would be?
2020-08-19T22:14:58  <lcp> `RewriteCond %{SERVER_NAME} ^(docs|(www\.)?activedoc|rtfm)\.opensuse\.org$` lol
2020-08-19T22:15:20  <lcp> welp. rtfm.opensuse.org actually works
2020-08-19T22:16:34  <cboltz> yes, but since a while the redirect gets done by haproxy
2020-08-19T22:17:06  <cboltz> (and, as a funny sidenote, I remember some "funny" discussions when the rtfm domain was introduced some years ago)
2020-08-19T23:38:23  <robin_listas> Wow. I do remember "ebooks", but that URL. And yes, I do remember the rtfm site. I liked it. LOL. Didn't last long.
2020-08-19T23:38:41  <robin_listas> (Oops. not that URL)