2020-08-14T03:22:09  <a-865k> "Bugzilla is currently being migrated. Thank you for your patience." again
2020-08-14T10:00:27  <lkocman> Hello team, would you have a time to look at https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69772? I see that pjessen commented on the issue 3 days ago.
2020-08-14T10:00:48  <lkocman> We did communicate availability later this week. So it would be nice to have this done rather soonish
2020-08-14T10:02:05  <lkocman> if it's just about rsync module and replicating structure on prod. Please let me tell if there is no capacity and then I can have a look, but I'd still like to have review before deployment
2020-08-14T10:02:18  * lkocman meanwhile goes for a lunch
2020-08-14T11:13:09  <pjessen> lkocman: I had a quick look, but got distracted.
2020-08-14T11:13:41  <pjessen> lkocman: actually, I wasn't sure exactly what is needed.  I see the jump directory is already being mirrored.
2020-08-14T11:36:51  <cboltz> pjessen: FYI: rsync on provo-mirror is still running - no idea which directory it's currently working on, I can only say that the last error happened somewhere in ports/armvv6hl/tumbleweed. This also means that /history should be up to date now
2020-08-14T11:47:52  <lkocman> pjessen, what would trigger the mirror/sync? Do we have some script for that?
2020-08-14T11:48:06  <lkocman> pjessen, I suppose that that part has been done manually so far
2020-08-14T11:48:10  <lkocman> imho by Adiran
2020-08-14T11:48:14  <lkocman> *adrianS
2020-08-14T16:18:07  <lcp> cboltz, pjessen: yeah I don't see a way to import nolist, mods and owners from cli, I would have to either write a script in python so I have the mailman3 api to use or just do that manually
2020-08-14T16:26:28  <cboltz> I know that mailman2 has a way to export and re-import the list config, which I sometimes used when creating lists with similar config on my server (for example "newsletter-style")
2020-08-14T16:26:42  <cboltz> does mailman3 still have this? If yes, what is included in the export?
2020-08-14T16:26:58  <cboltz> (maybe you can import some things that way?)
2020-08-14T16:47:34  <lcp> I believe it does, but idk what the output format of mailman2 is tbh
2020-08-14T16:48:11  <cboltz> IIRC (I didn't do this for a while) it's a config file that technically is python code
2020-08-14T16:49:04  <cboltz> I also just found https://mailman-cli.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailmanclient/cli/docs/using_cli_tools.html - I've never heard of mmclient, which makes it likely that it's about mailman3 ;-)
2020-08-14T16:50:10  <lcp> maybe, let me check
2020-08-14T16:51:16  <lcp> it is mm3
2020-08-14T16:51:39  <lcp> I will have to build it for the vm
2020-08-14T16:51:55  <lcp> can we have a repo for the vm, I already have some packages I need there
2020-08-14T16:52:21  <lcp> which I sideloaded by installing rpms built in my home repo, which isn't optimal >:D
2020-08-14T16:53:19  <cboltz> I can create a repo - is openSUSE:infrastructure:mailman3 ok?
2020-08-14T16:53:55  <lcp> yup
2020-08-14T16:55:59  <cboltz> done, you should have full permissions there
2020-08-14T16:56:12  <lcp> the issue with mailmancli is that it hasn't been touched in 5 years
2020-08-14T16:56:19  <lcp> we will see how bad that is
2020-08-14T16:56:30  <cboltz> oh, nice ;-)
2020-08-14T16:56:53  * cboltz leaves for dinner
2020-08-14T17:40:52  <lcp> cboltz: I will just use the python bindings instead, they seem to be simple enough
2020-08-14T17:57:39  <lcp> well, they aren't as simple as I expected :/
2020-08-14T17:59:10  <lcp> malcolmlewis: since you seem to know something about nntp, mailman has nntp server running, and I wonder if you could help me test if that's working sometime
2020-08-14T18:08:50  <lcp> cboltz: alright, I got it, I can use the api to handle the migration >:D
2020-08-14T18:09:07  <cboltz> :-)
2020-08-14T18:12:27  <lcp> eh, without the delivery status, that's not a thing
2020-08-14T18:22:06  <lcp> cboltz: awww, the new command we need is only in git for now
2020-08-14T18:23:26  <cboltz> so we can choose between the pain of running git master, the pain of backporting that command, or the pain of doing some things manually?
2020-08-14T18:23:27  <lcp> https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/commands/cli_addmembers.py
2020-08-14T18:23:46  <lcp> idk, I should probably look if there was release since a week ago
2020-08-14T18:24:03  <lcp> 3 months ago
2020-08-14T18:24:05  <lcp> ehhhhhhh
2020-08-14T18:24:07  <lcp> hhhhhhhhh
2020-08-14T18:24:50  <lcp> well, it can't be that hard to backport, I will look if there isn't any way to add mods and owners tho
2020-08-14T18:26:28  <lcp> no, it was added 2 months ago
2020-08-14T18:26:35  <lcp> it's still less than 3 months ago
2020-08-14T18:26:48  <lcp> damn it
2020-08-14T18:28:02  <cboltz> if I get https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/commit/9c47d8df71c6a4c5a14a32bdb9c2f04f50279746 (the first and main commit) right, it should be enough to just drop that script in the correct directory
2020-08-14T18:28:17  <cboltz> (at least I don't see any "integration work" in other scripts there)
2020-08-14T18:28:19  <lcp> probably
2020-08-14T18:28:37  <lcp> yeah, I will touch that in a sec
2020-08-14T18:28:43  <lcp> literally touch I guess
2020-08-14T18:29:12  <lcp> I still have to use the api to add owners and mods, which is annoying
2020-08-14T18:31:01  <lcp> huh, syncmembers could be a nice way to integrate mailman with freeipa groups
2020-08-14T19:11:37  <malcolmlewis> lcp, so did you get it sorted, or still what nntp help?
2020-08-14T19:12:52  <lcp> I will want to test it when we have mailing lists there, so it's just saying I might need your help at some point
2020-08-14T19:25:43  <lcp> cboltz: I need to update to 3.3.1 so I can disable welcome messages too
2020-08-14T19:27:26  <cboltz> nice ;-)
2020-08-14T19:38:21  <pjessen> lcp: do you have nntp on mailman3.i.o.o ?
2020-08-14T19:38:54  <pjessen> cboltz: provo-mirror is still sync'ing, working through 3.2Tb of ports/
2020-08-14T19:39:13  <cboltz> yeah, that will probably take a while ;-)
2020-08-14T19:39:36  <pjessen> is there a lock on those rsync, to stop multiple in parallel ?
2020-08-14T19:39:43  <lcp> pjessen: correct, mailman has nntp server for some reason
2020-08-14T19:39:47  <cboltz> I additionally started a sync for uyuni to get some progress in the ticket ;-)
2020-08-14T19:39:54  <lcp> I can see the runner under `systemctl status mailman`
2020-08-14T19:40:04  <pjessen> lcp: that's cool, I'll check it out tomorrow.
2020-08-14T19:40:10  <lcp> thanks
2020-08-14T19:40:19  <cboltz> pjessen: yes, rsync runs with "withlock" (except my manuallly started rsync for uyuni)
2020-08-14T19:41:05  <pjessen> cboltz: something must have stopped the sync'ing - otherwise it should already have a copy of ports/
2020-08-14T19:41:41  <cboltz> unfortunately I have no idea what could have stopped it
2020-08-14T19:43:30  <pjessen> me neither
2020-08-14T19:44:02  <cboltz> let's wait for the manual sync to finish, and then check regularly if the cronjob does its work
2020-08-14T19:44:19  <cboltz> and we should ask Lars because he knows provo-mirror better
2020-08-14T19:45:19  <pjessen> yeah
2020-08-14T19:45:35  <pjessen> I'll ask him to get me access too.
2020-08-14T19:45:53  <cboltz> that's something I can also do ;-)
2020-08-14T19:47:03  <pjessen> cboltz: aha!  you probably just need my public key?
2020-08-14T19:47:18  <cboltz> not even that - it's in FreeIPA ;-)
2020-08-14T19:47:57  <pjessen> ah yes, of course
2020-08-14T19:48:22  <cboltz> hmm, actually your key is already there ;-)
2020-08-14T19:48:50  <cboltz> ssh -A root@status2.opensuse.org   and from there   ssh provo-mirror
2020-08-14T19:49:09  <pjessen> got it, tnx
2020-08-14T19:51:09  <cboltz> the manual sync is running in screen:   su - mirror   and then   screen -r   but /home/mirror/log/ is probably slightly more helpful
2020-08-14T19:53:30  <pjessen> the good news is that the repo-push is working, so the uyuni stuff will be up-to-date
2020-08-14T20:02:19  <cboltz> well, it needed an update, and the manual rsync for Snapshots:/* is still running
2020-08-14T20:04:39  <cboltz> which leads to the question if you are really sure that repo-push is working ;-)
2020-08-14T20:09:40  <lcp> pjessen: I'm fairly sure there are emails not in mhonarc that exist in mlmmj archive
2020-08-14T20:10:31  <lcp> for private mailing lists especially
2020-08-14T20:11:39  <lcp> so I think we should migrate those anyway