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Usually I jump to it through ariel, but ariel can't ping that host 2018-04-03T15:18:16 *** plinnell_ has quit IRC 2018-04-03T15:18:41 *** plinnell has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T15:18:42 *** plinnell has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T15:43:37 *** matthias_bgg has quit IRC 2018-04-03T15:53:46 *** marxin has quit IRC 2018-04-03T16:08:04 *** Son_Goku has quit IRC 2018-04-03T16:09:20 *** sven15 has quit IRC 2018-04-03T16:10:52 *** Son_Goku has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T16:18:10 *** Son_Goku has quit IRC 2018-04-03T16:26:32 *** marxin has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T16:41:15 *** fvogt has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T16:45:21 PROBLEM: NRPE on sarabi.infra.opensuse.org - connect to address 192.168.47.15 port 5666: Connection refused ; See https://monitor.opensuse.org/icinga/cgi-bin/extinfo.cgi?type=2&host=sarabi.infra.opensuse.org&service=NRPE 2018-04-03T17:04:36 *** lcp has quit IRC 2018-04-03T17:07:26 *** lcp has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T17:28:06 *** cboltz has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T17:28:06 *** cboltz has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T17:33:34 *** mcaj has quit IRC 2018-04-03T17:36:50 *** mcaj has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T17:43:33 *** Ada_Lovelace has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T17:45:10 *** lcp_ has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T17:47:35 *** lcp has quit IRC 2018-04-03T17:47:35 *** lcp_ is now known as lcp 2018-04-03T17:50:09 DimStar: still around? 2018-04-03T17:59:13 * tampakrap will brb in 5 mins 2018-04-03T18:01:46 Hi everybody! 2018-04-03T18:01:56 Hi 2018-04-03T18:02:38 while waiting for tampakrap, let's start the Heroes meeting with a topic where we don't necessarily need him ;-) 2018-04-03T18:02:42 Questions and answers from the community 2018-04-03T18:03:06 does someone have a question? ;-) 2018-04-03T18:03:37 hi people 2018-04-03T18:03:43 thomic is on vacation 2018-04-03T18:03:48 pjessen: around? 2018-04-03T18:04:25 yup 2018-04-03T18:04:33 i'm here 2018-04-03T18:04:39 cool 2018-04-03T18:05:20 cboltz: link from the ticket please? 2018-04-03T18:05:26 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/34135 2018-04-03T18:05:52 so one question we have from the community is the question from Ana regarding planet 2018-04-03T18:06:30 https://github.com/openSUSE/planet.opensuse.org/issues 2018-04-03T18:06:47 and also this PR https://github.com/openSUSE/planet.opensuse.org/pull/67 2018-04-03T18:07:48 that's all my "fault" ;-) 2018-04-03T18:07:55 and yet another issue I saw is that rawdog is still python2, we're going to have issue when we'll want to update the machine to leap15 2018-04-03T18:07:57 I only asked her why her blog isn't on planet, and that's the result ;_) 2018-04-03T18:08:37 nice :) 2018-04-03T18:09:12 tampakrap: yes, still/again here 2018-04-03T18:09:26 DimStar: pm to not interrupt the meeting 2018-04-03T18:09:31 it seems Leap 15 still contains python 2, so I'd hope that rawdog will continue to work 2018-04-03T18:10:42 it will contain full python2? 2018-04-03T18:10:49 then we're fine 2018-04-03T18:10:52 at least in theory 2018-04-03T18:11:06 I only checked osc ls openSUSE:Leap:15.0 python ;-) 2018-04-03T18:11:48 but if the core is there, I'd expect that all the python2-* packages will also be there 2018-04-03T18:12:09 *** Son_Goku has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T18:12:28 okay 2018-04-03T18:12:42 https://github.com/openSUSE/planet.opensuse.org/issues/69 this one is interesting where lcp created already a new design 2018-04-03T18:13:24 so from a quick look, you replied to the local setup question (waiting for feedback) 2018-04-03T18:13:25 He is creating designs for all systems. 2018-04-03T18:13:44 cboltz has a easter egg in our wiki with that. ;) 2018-04-03T18:13:47 the question about removing inactive blogs is pending replies to your mail to the community 2018-04-03T18:13:47 *** Son_Goku has quit IRC 2018-04-03T18:13:57 and for the design related questions I don't have an opinion 2018-04-03T18:14:12 so it should be fine from our side for now, correct? 2018-04-03T18:14:12 that easter egg is from Guo Yunhe ;-) 2018-04-03T18:14:37 Sorry 2018-04-03T18:14:52 no problem ;-) 2018-04-03T18:15:18 *I wish there was no python2 there :/* 2018-04-03T18:15:25 It's such a pain 2018-04-03T18:16:09 I'll be happy if we don't need it (and everythong works with py3) 2018-04-03T18:16:15 lcp: I'm not aware of a python3 planet software though 2018-04-03T18:16:32 but if rawdog still needs py2, I prefer the pain over breaking planet.o.o ;-) 2018-04-03T18:16:38 I'm not aware of any other good planet software in facr 2018-04-03T18:16:42 fact* 2018-04-03T18:16:45 I looked around :/ 2018-04-03T18:16:52 https://github.com/rubys/venus this is what I was using in gentoo, and I see it is still python2 as well 2018-04-03T18:17:09 and there are alts with php and stuff 2018-04-03T18:17:15 no :/ 2018-04-03T18:17:36 as much as I hate python 2, I prefer it over php 2018-04-03T18:17:53 yep so let's keep it I'd say 2018-04-03T18:18:06 for the design I personally have no opinion at all 2018-04-03T18:18:20 ditto 2018-04-03T18:18:22 oh come on 2018-04-03T18:18:25 be harsh 2018-04-03T18:18:42 it's easier to develop with critisizm 2018-04-03T18:19:17 ah, that I can do 2018-04-03T18:19:25 do you have it uploaded somewhere? 2018-04-03T18:19:38 not yet, it barely works :/ 2018-04-03T18:19:52 I will have it later when I get back to it 2018-04-03T18:20:01 okay ping me if you want to have a planet-test.o.o instance at some point 2018-04-03T18:20:39 when you put it online, make sure to mention that in the ticket - if you are lucky, Ana has some time to help ;-) 2018-04-03T18:21:26 great :D 2018-04-03T18:21:55 yeah I'd say collaborate with each other already 2018-04-03T18:21:55 looking at the scresnshot you added to the ticket - maybe reduce the height of the header a bit? 2018-04-03T18:22:18 whitespace can be important, but too much whitespace can also mean "wasting" space ;-) 2018-04-03T18:24:13 that said - I'm looking forward to have the new design on planet :-) 2018-04-03T18:25:17 can/should we continue with the next topic? 2018-04-03T18:25:23 status reports about everything 2018-04-03T18:25:35 I'll start with a small one 2018-04-03T18:26:16 I tested our sponsors.o.o idea with nginx (redirecting to a random image/sponsor logo in a directory), and it works as expected :-) 2018-04-03T18:26:48 (actually I already have the salt code for it because that was easier than doing a manual setup ;-) 2018-04-03T18:26:56 oh cool! 2018-04-03T18:27:04 double cool for salt! 2018-04-03T18:28:14 I also did some very early steps for a Leap 15 JeOS image, but at the moment it fails with "unresolvable" 2018-04-03T18:28:39 so I'll need to spend some more time on it ;-) 2018-04-03T18:28:58 if someone is interested nevertheless - https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:cboltz:openSUSE:infrastructure:Images:openSUSE_Leap_15.0/jeos 2018-04-03T18:29:35 I'll check it yes 2018-04-03T18:30:11 that's it from me ;-) 2018-04-03T18:30:16 who else has status reports? 2018-04-03T18:30:45 nothing fascinating from my side 2018-04-03T18:30:54 not much from me either. 2018-04-03T18:31:16 mailman test setup is in place, but i have not had time to continue 2018-04-03T18:31:39 pjessen: any idea about those rsync.o.o tickets? 2018-04-03T18:31:51 the ones about emtpy hotstuff? 2018-04-03T18:31:53 haven't checked them, I just recall getting tickets again 2018-04-03T18:32:05 maybe, let me check 2018-04-03T18:32:19 I did look at it before easter, but I got distracted 2018-04-03T18:32:33 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/34030 2018-04-03T18:32:33 basically all hotstuff packages are 0 size. 2018-04-03T18:32:42 that's different 2018-04-03T18:33:07 havent even seen that one 2018-04-03T18:34:36 okay 2018-04-03T18:35:00 mirroring - I nee dhelp with figuring out an issue wrt tumbleweed 2018-04-03T18:35:20 what's the issue? 2018-04-03T18:35:51 our own mirror (hostsuise) is distributing lots of tumblweed, but mirror.o.o says we dont' 2018-04-03T18:36:02 don't have it 2018-04-03T18:36:32 mb mirrorlist says no, but mirrorbrain still redirects to us 2018-04-03T18:36:56 smells like ipv6 glitch 2018-04-03T18:37:35 yes, that is what my rsync log says too. It fails, then works a minute later, when the scanner tries the ipv4 address 2018-04-03T18:38:09 okay I'll try my best 2018-04-03T18:38:17 lets discuss it tomorrow 2018-04-03T18:38:49 but do send me some hints about what you think might be worth looking at. 2018-04-03T18:38:56 sure 2018-04-03T18:39:49 so anything else or should we move? 2018-04-03T18:39:58 otherwise- external monitoring - a new guest is on my TODO 2018-04-03T18:40:03 cboltz: tall header is gonna be there only on first page I hope 2018-04-03T18:40:28 still on my TODO. that's all from me for now. 2018-04-03T18:41:35 lcp: ok, I'll check when you have something working so that I can check the whole picture ;-) 2018-04-03T18:41:50 https://imgur.com/a/enORI 2018-04-03T18:42:09 yeeeah, I need to start it for real :/ 2018-04-03T18:42:19 *** fvogt has quit IRC 2018-04-03T18:42:44 *** thomic_ has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T18:43:14 *** test24 has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T18:44:01 does someone dare to close https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/34051 ? (or, better question, can someone load it without getting a gateway timeout? ;-) 2018-04-03T18:44:18 is that the one with 500 mails? 2018-04-03T18:44:23 right ;-) 2018-04-03T18:44:48 yeah, sorry about that. took me a little too long to figure out. 2018-04-03T18:44:54 checking 2018-04-03T18:45:37 pjessen: no problem, such things happen ;-) 2018-04-03T18:46:00 actually it's somewhat entertaining, at least if you [try to] look at it a few days later ;-) 2018-04-03T18:46:00 it times out 2018-04-03T18:46:25 *** plusky_ has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T18:46:35 hmm, maybe it's possible to close it with the mass handling on the ticket list page? let me try... ;-) 2018-04-03T18:47:29 looks like it worked 2018-04-03T18:47:36 wow 2018-04-03T18:47:43 we'll see how many mails this triggers *eg* 2018-04-03T18:47:48 *** Ada_Lovelace has quit IRC 2018-04-03T18:47:48 *** plusky has quit IRC 2018-04-03T18:47:51 *** thomic has quit IRC 2018-04-03T18:47:52 *** plusky_ is now known as plusky 2018-04-03T18:47:52 *** plusky has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T18:48:09 both lists have the right control settings now, 2018-04-03T18:48:46 *** test24 is now known as Ada_Lovelace 2018-04-03T18:49:09 *** fvogt has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T18:49:16 delete it, don't close it please 2018-04-03T18:50:00 maybe I should just parse output from rawdog to jekyll, my life would be so much easier :/ 2018-04-03T18:50:08 tampakrap: too late, I already closed it ;-) - but it looks pjessen's changed settings helped 2018-04-03T18:50:19 at least I don't see a bounce "war" ;-) 2018-04-03T18:50:40 phew. 2018-04-03T18:50:42 yeah the trick usually is to remove the mailing list from the watchers' list 2018-04-03T18:51:31 ... which won't work if loading the ticket times out ;-) 2018-04-03T18:51:44 yep 2018-04-03T18:53:14 so anythin else or we can move? 2018-04-03T18:53:26 lets move on 2018-04-03T18:53:37 we got some tickets about spam on paste.o.o 2018-04-03T18:54:09 yes, I mailed michal about this, and I escalated the issue to sysrich as well 2018-04-03T18:54:09 who has access to it to delete that spam? 2018-04-03T18:54:13 no reply so far 2018-04-03T18:54:24 only michal has access, it is hosted in his private server 2018-04-03T18:55:24 we should probably change that - AFAIK michal is very busy 2018-04-03T18:55:47 so moving it to a VM where multiple people have access would be helpful ;-) 2018-04-03T18:56:01 might be good with an improved auth mechanism. spammers will continue. 2018-04-03T18:56:22 that's a long term solution 2018-04-03T18:56:25 right, but one step after the other ;-) 2018-04-03T18:56:29 the short term solutions that we proposed are: 2018-04-03T18:56:39 1) remove the sign-up button from top right corner 2018-04-03T18:56:56 2) give me admin access 2018-04-03T18:57:15 then we can discuss about moving the service or even replacing the backend with something better 2018-04-03T18:57:26 this one is a custom made from michal 2018-04-03T18:58:12 according to the footer, it's based on Stikked, so at least not completely custom made 2018-04-03T18:58:32 (I don't know how much is upstream and how much customized) 2018-04-03T18:58:34 ah didn't notice that 2018-04-03T18:58:56 thorsten found another one 2018-04-03T18:59:04 I'll try to find it, sec 2018-04-03T18:59:14 https://github.com/openSUSE/paste latest update to backend was 10 years ago from what I recall 2018-04-03T18:59:40 I looked into it few months back 2018-04-03T19:00:04 I think it was this one https://github.com/PrivateBin/PrivateBin 2018-04-03T19:01:01 lcp: wow, sounds like up to date code :-/ (to be fair, the latest commit was 6 years ago, but that's not really better) 2018-04-03T19:01:04 any changes to it will have to mean changing susepaste and susepaste-screenshot packages in openSUSE :P 2018-04-03T19:02:12 that, and we'll also have to ensure that existing content will still be available under the known URLs 2018-04-03T19:03:17 doesnt the content expire fairly quickly? 2018-04-03T19:03:39 depends on what you choose when creating a paste 2018-04-03T19:03:47 the current default is a week 2018-04-03T19:03:51 https://susepaste.org/lists 2018-04-03T19:04:01 here are all the current pastes 2018-04-03T19:04:04 but IIRC the old default (like two years ago) was to keep forever 2018-04-03T19:04:13 well "all" some might be private 2018-04-03T19:05:16 a quick search shows https://github.com/claudehohl/Stikked so if we are lucky, we can "just" upgrade to the latest version 2018-04-03T19:05:27 (yes, I know why I put quotes around "just" ;-) 2018-04-03T19:07:08 It really should get new looks :P 2018-04-03T19:08:11 the first step is to get admin access, then we can start with moving and updating it, and also give it a new look 2018-04-03T19:08:55 *I have planet to take care of anyway* 2018-04-03T19:09:13 ;-) 2018-04-03T19:09:49 should we continue with the next topic? 2018-04-03T19:09:53 oSC 18 2018-04-03T19:10:04 yes who is visiting me? 2018-04-03T19:10:26 at home, or at oSC? ;-) 2018-04-03T19:10:46 yes 2018-04-03T19:11:30 * cboltz assumes the "yes" is the answer for "at home", and hopes tampakrap will have some cake ready 2018-04-03T19:11:45 cake? 2018-04-03T19:11:58 and cookies 2018-04-03T19:12:36 I m not yet certain I'll attend, but this is beginning to sound tempting. 2018-04-03T19:12:39 my girlfriend will make them, I don't want ot poison you 2018-04-03T19:13:05 I have submitte my presentation about the salt structure and testing 2018-04-03T19:13:24 so nobody will come? you'll leave me all alone there? 2018-04-03T19:13:35 *** Ada_Lovelace has quit IRC 2018-04-03T19:13:55 do you seriously think I'll miss oSC? ;-) 2018-04-03T19:14:31 perfect 2018-04-03T19:14:38 anybody else? 2018-04-03T19:14:39 I know you'll need someone to ask evil questions in your talk, and I might be that one ;-) 2018-04-03T19:14:51 cboltz: any presentation? 2018-04-03T19:15:21 I didn't have a good idea for a Heroes-related presentation yet 2018-04-03T19:15:50 I could come up with some funny stories about the wiki move, but IMHO it would be a year too late 2018-04-03T19:16:09 (unfortunately we had too many proposals last year, so it was declined) 2018-04-03T19:17:10 so if you have a good idea what I could talk about, tell me ;-) 2018-04-03T19:17:28 I don't think it is late, because last year it wasn't even done 2018-04-03T19:18:06 right, but all the "funny" things about the spam attack, getting access in Provo etc. are quite old 2018-04-03T19:18:28 still, it's a story 2018-04-03T19:18:31 and a talk describing "just" the move would be too technical and probably boring for most people 2018-04-03T19:18:34 it's up to you though 2018-04-03T19:18:50 it can be a short talk for 30 mins 2018-04-03T19:18:57 mine will be short as well 2018-04-03T19:21:06 hmm, just checking grepsig opensuse-admin maybe I should do a lightning talk about "what the Heroes would prefer not to tell you" ;-)) 2018-04-03T19:21:37 like what? 2018-04-03T19:22:00 like "nobody knows why it is down or when it will be up again"? 2018-04-03T19:22:07 basically some funny failures 2018-04-03T19:22:31 and/or funny quotes 2018-04-03T19:23:06 yes I approve 2018-04-03T19:23:28 you will regret that... 2018-04-03T19:23:53 challenge accepted 2018-04-03T19:25:43 so let's move, I don't see much enthusiasm about osc :) 2018-04-03T19:26:14 there will surely be much more enthusiasm about the 10 oldest tickets 2018-04-03T19:26:21 as I said, you will regret that - but since you are probably the main "victim" (you did quite some stuff, so of course you also broke some things) I'll check what I find, and will probably submit that talk ;-) 2018-04-03T19:27:33 pjessen: indeed, you'll for example enjoy https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/4314 ;-) 2018-04-03T19:28:28 this will need to redesign the search system 2018-04-03T19:28:37 it's not an easy task 2018-04-03T19:28:37 quite remarkably, I almost recruited a volunteer for that. 2018-04-03T19:29:00 yeah. and I still wonder if google isn't good enough/ 2018-04-03T19:29:13 or _why_ google isn't good enough 2018-04-03T19:30:18 the local search might have some advantages if you want to search only in one list and in a gived date range (basically "I'm sure this was discussed on $list in $month $year") 2018-04-03T19:30:32 but besides that, I agree that in most cases google will do the job 2018-04-03T19:31:33 *** ldevulder has quit IRC 2018-04-03T19:31:44 my feeling too. that's why I have not been trying to do much. 2018-04-03T19:32:10 *** fvogt has quit IRC 2018-04-03T19:32:43 maybe it would be better (for next time), if someone would prepare a quick status of the 10 oldest tickets. 2018-04-03T19:33:13 going through them one by one is a bit tedious 2018-04-03T19:33:26 well, the plan/hope was that we can get some of the oldest tickets fixed/closed during the meeting ;-) 2018-04-03T19:33:38 correct but next time I'll be on vacation, I won't join the meeting 2018-04-03T19:33:49 (that obviously won't work for a big task like the ML search) 2018-04-03T19:34:02 and BTW: this is the third-oldest ticket, and the good thing is that it's "only" a year old. When I got access to progress, there were more tickets with quite some dust on them 2018-04-03T19:34:23 I'm looking at them now, and it takes me too long to grasp each issue enough to have an opinion/ 2018-04-03T19:34:33 *** fvogt has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T19:34:44 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/9342 looks like MF-IT issue 2018-04-03T19:35:50 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/15268 is assigned to max - who was going to look into CDN77 ? 2018-04-03T19:36:09 sorry, not the 10-oldest 2018-04-03T19:36:27 tampakrap: that, or move www.o.o to Heroes infrastructure. The "problem" is that it includes openID auth, otherwise it would be an easy task 2018-04-03T19:37:34 pjessen: at the offsite, cmueller picked up that task, so please reassign 2018-04-03T19:38:08 (and don't worry too much about ignoring the 10-oldest restriction ;-) 2018-04-03T19:38:34 thanks, done. 2018-04-03T19:38:48 hi guys, again late to the game. 2000 couldn't work for me. I still want to be a valuable heroes member but so far I do not consider myself one. I never found the motivation to activate the openSUSE VPN access on my computer. I will ask asmorodskyi to help me with that - the motivation part as well as the technical ;) cwh made me an admin of the redmine instance on progress.o.o and I found some interesting settings but did 2018-04-03T19:38:49 not change anything. 2018-04-03T19:39:19 tampakrap: I still plan to help with progress.o.o updating and a bit of redmine administration but it has to go with low prio for me 2018-04-03T19:39:55 sure 2018-04-03T19:40:23 btw, anyone of you that can help with openqaworker1 being down? 2018-04-03T19:40:43 it should be 192.168.112.100 if "ping openqaworker1" from ariel is correct 2018-04-03T19:42:49 cboltz: what about this? https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/13296 2018-04-03T19:43:02 and because python2 vs. python3 has been mentioned: The plan for SLE15 was to move all core tools to python3 so that python2 can be moved to the legacy module. For Leap this means: python2 will for sure still be around for the time being but it's a good time to care about python3 support :) 2018-04-03T19:43:17 okurz: spoke with DimStar already, I don't have access either 2018-04-03T19:43:41 do you know who has? Should I raise a ticket elsewhere? 2018-04-03T19:44:00 okurz: DimStar will do it 2018-04-03T19:45:13 tampakrap: waiting for the new design everywhere will automagically solve it ;-) but if you point me to a git repo that hosts the navbar with the outdated link, I can fix it 2018-04-03T19:45:54 (the actual fix is easy, I just need to know where the file hides ;-) 2018-04-03T19:46:34 where is that bar? 2018-04-03T19:46:42 I'm on www.o.o and can't see any tube link 2018-04-03T19:47:01 *** ldevulder has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T19:47:26 same for software.o.o 2018-04-03T19:47:30 right, www.o.o already has the new design, which means no more outdated links 2018-04-03T19:47:34 they only have links to opensusetv 2018-04-03T19:47:34 try for example the wiki 2018-04-03T19:48:17 or paste.o.o 2018-04-03T19:48:25 well 2018-04-03T19:48:26 guys, I have to leave, need time to resolve some family matters. see you later. 2018-04-03T19:48:32 the easiest would be to fix it in the proxy 2018-04-03T19:48:41 put a redirect of tube.o.o to the opensusetv 2018-04-03T19:48:56 I have no idea where that bar comes from 2018-04-03T19:49:04 pjessen: have a nice evening 2018-04-03T19:49:17 pjessen: enjoy the evening with your family! 2018-04-03T19:49:30 tampa, I'll ping you tomorrow wrt the mirror issue 2018-04-03T19:49:36 sure 2018-04-03T19:49:45 tampakrap: AFAIK the bar is hosted on static.o.o as part of the bento theme 2018-04-03T19:50:04 *** pjessen has quit IRC 2018-04-03T19:50:25 still, fixing it in proxy is a good start 2018-04-03T19:50:31 doing a redirect in haproxy might also be a solution 2018-04-03T19:51:08 the only problem I see is that tube.o.o currently points to widehat 2018-04-03T19:51:29 I seriously hope not too many people abuse it as an alias for widehat or download.o.o, but you never know ;-) 2018-04-03T19:51:35 I can change it to point to the proxy 2018-04-03T19:52:35 *** fvogt has quit IRC 2018-04-03T19:53:25 right, a DNS change is easy, but see the possible problem "alias for widehat" which might in worst (hopefully unlikely) case break someone's repos 2018-04-03T19:53:42 now it points to the proxy 2018-04-03T19:53:42 are we fine with risking such breakage? 2018-04-03T19:53:53 yes 2018-04-03T19:54:04 if someone is using tube.o.o for his repos, good for him 2018-04-03T19:54:13 enjoy downloading youtube videos instead of rpms 2018-04-03T19:54:20 lol 2018-04-03T19:54:32 I'll add the redirect in the haproxy config 2018-04-03T19:56:18 cboltz: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/18372 what about this? 2018-04-03T19:57:36 good question :-/ 2018-04-03T19:58:09 I'd say send him mail to put his opensuse category/tag rss only 2018-04-03T19:58:28 the original request is valid, planet opensuse is supposed to be about opensuse or at least linux / community related 2018-04-03T19:59:26 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/17702 this one I'll close it, it's a salt design issue 2018-04-03T19:59:30 nothing we can fix 2018-04-03T19:59:40 upstream is aware btw and not really willing to provide the functionality 2018-04-03T20:00:03 PROBLEM: HAProxy on elsa.infra.opensuse.org - HAPROXY CRITICAL - Active service dale is DOWN on dale proxy ! ; See https://monitor.opensuse.org/icinga/cgi-bin/extinfo.cgi?type=2&host=elsa.infra.opensuse.org&service=HAProxy 2018-04-03T20:00:04 PROBLEM: HAProxy on anna.infra.opensuse.org - HAPROXY CRITICAL - Active service dale is DOWN on dale proxy ! ; See https://monitor.opensuse.org/icinga/cgi-bin/extinfo.cgi?type=2&host=anna.infra.opensuse.org&service=HAProxy 2018-04-03T20:00:06 PROBLEM: HAProxy on mufasa.infra.opensuse.org - HAPROXY CRITICAL - Active service riesling is DOWN on riesling proxy ! ; See https://monitor.opensuse.org/icinga/cgi-bin/extinfo.cgi?type=2&host=mufasa.infra.opensuse.org&service=HAProxy 2018-04-03T20:00:47 I wonder if there's a way to add a dependency "required for pkg.* states"... 2018-04-03T20:01:36 that would also be useful to ensure the zypper config (especially "no recommends") is done before installing packages 2018-04-03T20:01:54 that's exactly what the ticket is about 2018-04-03T20:02:54 I have to admit that I don't remember all details from this ticket ;-) 2018-04-03T20:03:07 so the idea comes from puppet 2018-04-03T20:03:22 in puppet you can define stages 2018-04-03T20:03:39 there is a base stage, but you can define a stage eg pre or post 2018-04-03T20:03:54 and say that everything that belongs to pre stage runs before base 2018-04-03T20:04:12 so for example, you can add all the firewall enable rules on pre, and all pkgrepo.* on pre 2018-04-03T20:04:16 then it will run the base 2018-04-03T20:04:26 and on post you put eg all the firewall block rules 2018-04-03T20:04:42 so that way all the pkgrepo.* instances will run before pkg.* 2018-04-03T20:04:56 and all firewall block rules will run after the firewall enable rules 2018-04-03T20:05:05 so that you don't kick yourself out for example :) 2018-04-03T20:05:37 the oldest ticket is https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/1154 2018-04-03T20:05:41 what about https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/states/ordering.html 2018-04-03T20:05:44 and I think we can close 2018-04-03T20:06:11 the ordering stuff you can see there are between defined states 2018-04-03T20:06:26 while puppet supports all of pkgrepo.* isntances to run before anything else 2018-04-03T20:06:29 see the diff? 2018-04-03T20:06:54 yes, I see the diff 2018-04-03T20:07:37 and while I don't say it's perfect, order: 1 (or even order: 0 or -1) to ensure a few things run first might be an acceptable workaround 2018-04-03T20:08:23 we would need to do it on all pkgrepo.* states though 2018-04-03T20:08:32 even the ones that come from eg a formula 2018-04-03T20:09:30 if a formula adds a repo (which is a bad idea IMHO), I'd expect that it is only used for packages related to this formula, and that the formula handles the correct order internally 2018-04-03T20:09:56 so I'd only care about the zypper config (no-recommends) and our own repos 2018-04-03T20:10:22 actually even our own repos aren't important enough - in worst case, we need to run highstate twice 2018-04-03T20:10:42 (or do we have newer versions of some packages than Leap has?) 2018-04-03T20:11:50 agree 2018-04-03T20:12:20 so let's improve the zypper formula 2018-04-03T20:12:50 I left a comment on https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/1154 if I get no reply in a week I'll close it 2018-04-03T20:13:17 sounds like a good idea (both the ticket comment and improving zypper formula) 2018-04-03T20:13:28 cboltz: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/33685 give him a reply please, I forgot the name again 2018-04-03T20:13:32 and close the ticket 2018-04-03T20:13:55 ok, will do 2018-04-03T20:17:11 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/9754 this I'll close it 2018-04-03T20:17:18 it's really pointless to have such tickets 2018-04-03T20:17:39 we might as well open a ticket for every service we want to saltify for no gain :) 2018-04-03T20:17:53 agree? 2018-04-03T20:18:30 yes, but with a different reason ;-) 2018-04-03T20:18:45 we set the IP address in initial_setup.sh to avoid a chicken and egg problem 2018-04-03T20:18:53 so salting it is probably pointless anyway 2018-04-03T20:19:52 managing resolv.conf might be a good idea _if_ we ever change the nameserver IPs 2018-04-03T20:20:05 but since this hopefully won't happen ;-) ignore that for now 2018-04-03T20:20:13 yep 2018-04-03T20:20:23 I closed also https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/11242 for the same reason 2018-04-03T20:21:29 having a working postfix (and if it's only to send out root mails) sounds more useful than salting the IP address ;-) 2018-04-03T20:21:43 yep but we don't need the ticket for that 2018-04-03T20:21:59 (actually Lars did that in the JeOS image, but that doesn't help for existing VMs) 2018-04-03T20:22:22 I think enough for today 2018-04-03T20:22:43 for planet - I checked, and it already *is* the opensuse feed... 2018-04-03T20:23:20 then a polite warning message to not post irrelevant stuff? 2018-04-03T20:24:14 I'll check with google translate if it's really irrelevant ;-) 2018-04-03T20:30:20 tube.o.o is now a redirect - ticket closed :-) 2018-04-03T21:41:27 *** ldevulder has quit IRC 2018-04-03T21:54:10 *** ldevulder has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T23:24:31 *** Fraser_Bell has joined #opensuse-admin 2018-04-03T23:41:22 *** cboltz has quit IRC