2026-09-12T00:49:55  <matrix-o-o> <Firstyear (Firstyear)> So pretty much "damned if we do, damned if we don't"
2026-09-12T01:00:16  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> Why not just treat it as a service for openSUSE Members, I use a key and susepaste or I'm happy to login and paste...
2026-09-12T01:07:56  <matrix-o-o> <Firstyear (Firstyear)> Hey I'm fine with that too :)
2026-09-12T01:08:14  <matrix-o-o> <Firstyear (Firstyear)> I think there are just a vocal set of people who don't want to have to login, but also aren't having to face the liability issues.
2026-09-12T01:08:19  <matrix-o-o> <Firstyear (Firstyear)> So IMO, make it require a login.
2026-09-12T01:08:27  <matrix-o-o> <Firstyear (Firstyear)> Simple as that.
2026-09-12T01:09:37  <matrix-o-o> <Firstyear (Firstyear)> Like, if the choice is "have paste but needs a login" vs "no paste service at all due to liability concern" I think it's an easy decision.
2026-09-12T05:42:18  <matrix-o-o> <hendersj> I don't know about "members only", but login required means that there's accountability for those who abuse the service, and we can deal with that. If it's members only, that's going to cause a _lot_ of problems for causal users who need to share log files and whatnot - they'll end up using other paste services, which can end up requiring them to use services that aren't well vetted and bring new users to the openSUSE...
2026-09-12T05:42:23  <matrix-o-o> ... distros (and other projects) into having to deal with sites we don't control - as well as the helpers having to retrieve information from those sites.
2026-09-12T14:57:36  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> hendersj: well it's IDP/UCS, which can be added as a feature to being a forum member/user. Perhaps openSUSE Membership allows access to the API feature of susepaste?
2026-09-12T17:30:22  <matrix-o-o> <hendersj> I don't know, ultimately putting additional roadblocks in front of legit users isn't in our best interests IMO.  But something like this is a balancing act - make it too easy, and it doesn't deter the bad actors.  But I think getting an API key is a bar that most bad actors aren't going to take.
2026-09-12T17:42:51  <matrix-o-o> <knurpht - Gertjan> hendersj: This is all it takes:
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