2025-08-15T08:53:37  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2025-08-15T13:50:48  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> i do have a question regarding upgrading the rooms to version 12: do we want to have a central admin account?
2025-08-15T13:50:59  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> or do we just use the draupnir account for that role?
2025-08-15T14:13:57  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> we should probably do a central admin account, but you'd need to poke at LCP or crameleon (acidsys) I think they're the current server admins for synapse
2025-08-15T14:32:43  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> what's the point of a central admin account
2025-08-15T14:34:54  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> right off, as I understand it, it avoids us running into this setup where channel owners are scattered all over the place for _official_ channels, and there's some changes around that with the new synapse release, I think. emma can tell you a hell of alot better than I can.
2025-08-15T14:53:29  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> LCP: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/2704#issuecomment-3135429365
2025-08-15T14:53:36  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> got something to do with that.
2025-08-15T14:56:41  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> pain
2025-08-15T14:56:51  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> fair enough, single admin account makes sense
2025-08-15T15:04:17  <acidsys> sounds like a design flaw
2025-08-15T15:13:10  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> there's lots of design flaws in matrix.
2025-08-15T15:16:38  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> SFaulken: i am too
2025-08-15T15:16:51  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> ahh, ok.
2025-08-15T15:16:59  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> I wasn't sure if you were or not
2025-08-15T15:17:36  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> LCP: the tl;dr is that the new room version changes how permissions work with a tiny detail: a room now has one (or more) _permanent_ admins, aka their permissions can _never_ be removed
2025-08-15T15:18:07  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> (unlike older room versions, where you start with a power level of 100 you can just transfer to another user and demote yourself)
2025-08-15T15:19:19  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> so yeah, idk if we should go the fedora route of having a dedicated admin account, or whether we should just delegate that to the Guard Geeko account
2025-08-15T15:20:23  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> even if we go for the guard geeko account, we (synapse admins) can change the guard geeko password if we need to log in for whatever reason anyways
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