2025-06-30T00:00:52  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: I know of at least two other Forum users in NZ, they don't seem to have issues, it's only you that seems to post about?
2025-06-30T00:01:41  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> maybe your ISP is doing something to save bandwidth?
2025-06-30T00:01:52  <jshand> yeah i don't why i'm having trouble then...
2025-06-30T00:02:10  <jshand> is malcomelewis available?
2025-06-30T00:02:37  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: that's me?
2025-06-30T00:03:09  <jshand> strange,  what is matrix-o-o showing for
2025-06-30T00:03:12  <jshand> confusing
2025-06-30T00:03:51  <jshand> i changed it to download.opensuse.org and it still doesn't work.  i am getting very frustrated now
2025-06-30T00:03:54  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: yes, because that's where I'm posting from, but it should show <malcolmlewis> on IRC
2025-06-30T00:04:30  <jshand> i've even tried zypper clean -a and nothing seems to work
2025-06-30T00:04:46  <malcolmlewis> jshand: go reboot your router
2025-06-30T00:05:13  <jshand> ok i'll try that
2025-06-30T00:05:20  <jshand> i'll reboot my comp too
2025-06-30T00:05:28  <malcolmlewis> your not using your ISP for DNS?
2025-06-30T00:13:24  <jshand> hey malcom, still not working after a reboot of router and comp, what next?
2025-06-30T00:13:33  <malcolmlewis> your not using your ISP for DNS?
2025-06-30T00:13:44  <jshand> what are these balonies up to
2025-06-30T00:14:12  <jshand> yes i am using isp dns.  not too sure how to change that
2025-06-30T00:15:00  <malcolmlewis> jshand: in your router LAN setup page
2025-06-30T00:25:17  <jshand> i've managed to set the dns to google's primary and secondary dns servers
2025-06-30T00:25:22  <jshand> still no change
2025-06-30T00:25:33  <jshand> i'm really coming to the end of myself now
2025-06-30T00:25:40  <jshand> this is not good enough
2025-06-30T00:26:09  <jshand> still getting the 503 error for the packages
2025-06-30T00:27:12  <malcolmlewis> can you susepaste the output from `cat /etc/zypp/repos.d/openSUSE-20241215-0`
2025-06-30T00:29:49  <malcolmlewis> jshand: just in case you missed it can you susepaste the output from `cat /etc/zypp/repos.d/openSUSE-20241215-0`
2025-06-30T00:35:11  <jshand> i did that command, https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/de6e0b5ed940
2025-06-30T00:37:44  <jshand> here is the full log of sudo zypper dup https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/3f546e04837d
2025-06-30T00:38:22  <jshand> something is seriously wrong and it's not good enough.  what are they doing over there in europe
2025-06-30T00:43:18  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: nothing, it's just you 😉
2025-06-30T00:45:26  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: the repo looks fine
2025-06-30T00:45:36  <jshand> i really don't know how to fix this then.  i had the efing thing working, it only stopped today.  the only thing i changed was the server.  i should've just left it
2025-06-30T00:45:38  <jshand> fuck
2025-06-30T00:46:09  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: changing it back won't work as it's broken...
2025-06-30T00:46:18  <jshand> yeah tried that
2025-06-30T00:46:31  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: what does "dig download.opensuse.org @8.8.8.8" show
2025-06-30T00:48:46  <jshand> https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/06409321de96
2025-06-30T00:48:53  <jshand> i'm not sure what that means
2025-06-30T00:50:15  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: It should show https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/4b9e766a3139
2025-06-30T00:51:10  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: can you post the output from "cat /etc/nsswitch.conf"
2025-06-30T00:51:26  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: you have DNS issues
2025-06-30T00:54:00  <jshand> https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/286ef9bf0fb5
2025-06-30T00:54:23  <malcolmlewis> jshand: and you seem to be using the router now? perhaps you have a static ip or dns set on the host your trying to update?
2025-06-30T00:55:01  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: SERVER: 192.168.4.1#53
2025-06-30T00:56:10  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: see if this works, edit your /etc/hosts file and add an entry "195.135.223.226 download.opensuse.org" save and force a refresh
2025-06-30T00:59:07  <jshand> that didn't work.  why am i the only one having frickin issues
2025-06-30T00:59:43  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: are you using a static ip on your host or DHCP?
2025-06-30T01:00:07  <jshand> dhcp
2025-06-30T01:00:25  <jshand> i've never had issue because of this before
2025-06-30T01:00:50  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: So in the output you didn't change the DNS as it's point at your router
2025-06-30T01:02:31  <jshand> what ya mean?  default setting or setting it to google
2025-06-30T01:02:44  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> as in SERVER: 192.168.4.1#53 if it was google, then it would be something like SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) (UDP)
2025-06-30T01:04:03  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> you said you updated it to use google, it didn't...
2025-06-30T01:06:19  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> ahh you didn't space it dig download.opensuse.org @8.8.8.8
2025-06-30T01:06:44  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> there is a space between org and the @
2025-06-30T01:08:52  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> then try just dig download.opensuse.org
2025-06-30T01:09:08  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> do those two command return the same output?
2025-06-30T01:10:17  <jshand> https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/6562a9171cb7
2025-06-30T01:10:19  <jshand> did it
2025-06-30T01:10:38  <jshand> still 192.168.4.1 this is the address of my router
2025-06-30T01:11:28  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> looks good
2025-06-30T01:11:33  <jshand> the updates are listed, why are we having preloading issues
2025-06-30T01:13:07  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> Is it on Tumbleweed?
2025-06-30T01:13:48  <jshand> yes it is
2025-06-30T01:13:52  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> It would fetch "curl http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/?mirrorlist"
2025-06-30T01:14:07  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> and then try the mirrors in there in parralel
2025-06-30T01:15:13  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> and the content depends on where your IP is located via geoip database
2025-06-30T01:15:40  <jshand> mate that doesn't do anything for me as it shows nothing and nothing is downloaded
2025-06-30T01:15:49  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> oh and it goes through cdn.opensuse.org, so "curl http://cdn.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/?mirrorlist"
2025-06-30T01:16:04  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: jshand is NZ and Firstyear (Firstyear)'s mirror is foobar
2025-06-30T01:16:36  <jshand> foobar?  you mean shit?
2025-06-30T01:16:49  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> yes
2025-06-30T01:17:31  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> but download or cdn should just find a mirror
2025-06-30T01:17:53  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> no, I think we did not add the australian mirrors in there.
2025-06-30T01:18:08  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: no, he had it set to that
2025-06-30T01:18:09  <jshand> i ran the curl on the cdn and got this https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/6b28cdbe50c8
2025-06-30T01:18:32  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> oh. not good.
2025-06-30T01:18:43  <jshand> no i thought not
2025-06-30T01:19:03  <jshand> and besides, my server is not pointing download.opensuse.org
2025-06-30T01:19:10  <jshand> not=now
2025-06-30T01:19:11  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: bear in mind that jshand is the only one that seems to have this issue in NZ... time and time again...
2025-06-30T01:19:32  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> could try one of the Australian mirrors directly from https://mirrors.opensuse.org/
2025-06-30T01:19:48  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> I wonder if some ISP foo is going on...
2025-06-30T01:19:52  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> mostly for repo-oss
2025-06-30T01:20:34  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> The fastly cdn has different locations and maybe some routing broke, so it cannot reach download.o.o to get its cache filled
2025-06-30T01:20:36  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: I see a ticket came in for the mirrorcache-au and a cdn one
2025-06-30T01:21:29  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: si it's seems to be NZ/Australia related
2025-06-30T01:21:38  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> * so
2025-06-30T01:22:00  <jshand> tried the aussies and it all seems to completely fick-faced
2025-06-30T01:22:27  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: so try a us one
2025-06-30T01:23:05  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> What about http://mirror.2degrees.nz/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ ?
2025-06-30T01:24:26  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> seems to have fresh repos
2025-06-30T01:24:32  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> it does
2025-06-30T01:26:33  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: disable that other one and add a new repo to try "zypper ar -f -g -n "mirror.2degrees.nz" http://mirror.2degrees.nz/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/  repo-oss"
2025-06-30T01:27:00  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> with 'disable' it would collide on the alias
2025-06-30T01:27:23  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> * 2degrees-repo-oss"
2025-06-30T01:27:31  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> I'd edit /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-oss.repo directly and comment out the other baseurl= line
2025-06-30T01:27:53  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> or your edit could work.
2025-06-30T01:28:32  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: but you can add your own mirror list in the repo definition as well?
2025-06-30T01:28:47  <jshand> updated the repo, they not most recent as packages were not listed up upgrade
2025-06-30T01:29:13  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> in theory - but that is somewhat harder to get right.
2025-06-30T01:29:22  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: force a refresh
2025-06-30T01:29:40  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> "zypper ref --force"
2025-06-30T01:30:37  <jshand> cleaned all and no change
2025-06-30T01:31:37  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> It will not provide parallel downloads, but at least you should be able to get packages.
2025-06-30T01:32:44  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: I just looked at the 2degrees on, it hasn't synced..missing a few from today
2025-06-30T01:33:27  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: it has some but not all
2025-06-30T01:33:43  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> syncing takes some time... but it should finish in a few hours.
2025-06-30T01:33:56  <jshand> i think i need to go for a lay down, i'm getting a headache
2025-06-30T01:34:38  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: my suggestion going forward is on a snapshot release, wait 24Hrs if in the South pacific....
2025-06-30T01:35:28  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: Go find a Pub might be better...
2025-06-30T01:35:37  <jshand> lol yeah maybe
2025-06-30T01:36:13  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> jshand: Go to the Quayside and smell the sea air as well... assuming it's still there...
2025-06-30T01:37:17  * matrix-o-o bmwiedemann wonders how the sea cannot be there anymore
2025-06-30T01:38:30  * matrix-o-o malcolmlewis Quayside is a Pub in Wellington...
2025-06-30T01:38:54  * matrix-o-o malcolmlewis spent too many hours there as it was a short walk from our office
2025-06-30T01:44:25  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> Ah, I see :D ambiguous "it" reference...
2025-06-30T01:54:46  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: well the building I use to be in was knocked down after an earthquake a number of years ago...
2025-06-30T06:43:07  <jshand> does anyone have information about the cdn mirror
2025-06-30T06:43:12  <jshand> it's still down
2025-06-30T06:44:00  <jshand> i'm in new zealand, has anyone been able to update to most recent tw version
2025-06-30T09:12:47  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> Anyone here with a machine in AU or NZ? cdn / download.o.o should be back working
2025-06-30T13:02:24  <henne> acidsys: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/184891
2025-06-30T18:16:55  *** knurpht_ is now known as knurpht
2025-06-30T22:22:13  <matrix-o-o> <hendersj> Seeing some performance issues in the forums at the moment - intermittent 503s and service unavailable notifications.  A cursory check of the server itself doesn't seem to be having any issues, but I wonder if there's something (maybe a reverse proxy?) that's causing an intermittent issue.
2025-06-30T22:35:20  <matrix-o-o> <Rachel> Wiki also having issues, guessing it's related.
2025-06-30T22:57:55  <matrix-o-o> <hendersj> Yeah, does seem to be a few affected services.  I'm using a Matrix web client, and it also seems to be having a lot of trouble staying connected to the Matrix infra.
2025-06-30T23:09:33  <a-865k> Service down ~ Homepage ~ Service status overview ~  ~ We are very sorry, but the requested service is currently not available.
2025-06-30T23:09:46  <a-865k> on forums
2025-06-30T23:13:54  <matrix-o-o> <hendersj> We're aware.  Thanks for the report.
2025-06-30T23:26:35  <matrix-o-o> <hendersj> Seems better now, hopefully whatever it was has passed.