2025-06-09T12:38:55  <matrix-o-o> <Rachel> I forgot to mention : blank page when selecting "Kabyle" language.
2025-06-09T13:00:14  <acidsys> trying quiz.i.o.o => root aka admin-auto@ now yields 450 4.2.0 <unknown[2a07:de40:b27e:1218::a10]>: Client host rejected: Service temporarily unavailable, please retry later (in reply to RCPT TO command))
2025-06-09T13:12:29  <cboltz> sounds like we have an issue on relay.i.o.o (effectively mx*)
2025-06-09T13:14:47  <cboltz> Jun  9 13:07:42 mx1 postfix/smtpd[19659]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[2a07:de40:b27e:1218::a10]: 450 4.2.0 <unknown[2a07:de40:b27e:1218::a10]>: Client host rejected: Service temporarily unavailable, please retry later; from=<quiz@quiz.infra.opensuse.org> to=<admin-auto@opensuse.org> proto=ESMTP helo=<quiz.infra.opensuse.org>
2025-06-09T13:14:59  <cboltz> "Client host rejected" sounds like missing reverse DNS
2025-06-09T13:16:04  <acidsys> I'm more curious about, "service temporarily unavailable", we have lots of hosts without reverse DNS (poo#168517) (or did we never attempt to send from any of those)
2025-06-09T13:19:38  <cboltz> we have _some_ subnets in mynetworks (so they get accepted even without reverse DNS)
2025-06-09T13:20:04  <acidsys> how was I able to spam admin@ earlier?
2025-06-09T13:21:25  <acidsys> also the emails went through now, did you change something? :)
2025-06-09T13:21:42  <cboltz> your first attempt to admin@ also got a 450
2025-06-09T13:22:13  <cboltz> no change, but - greylisting?
2025-06-09T13:22:52  <acidsys> greylist would print something like "postgrey: action=greylist, reason=new," in the journal
2025-06-09T13:25:25  <cboltz> you mean (found in mail log)
2025-06-09T13:25:28  <cboltz> Jun  9 13:07:42 mx1 postgrey[1411]: action=greylist, reason=new, client_name=unknown, client_address=2a07:de40:b27e:1218::a10, sender=quiz@quiz.infra.opensuse.org, recipient=admin-auto@opensuse.org
2025-06-09T13:26:28  <acidsys> ok
2025-06-09T13:26:56  <acidsys> I would expect postfix to report something pointing to that instead of "temporarily unavailable"
2025-06-09T13:27:08  <acidsys> but if that's the mysteries answer, good with me :)
2025-06-09T13:27:39  <cboltz> I'd guess that the greylisting doesn't want to tell spammers "try again in 5 minutes" and uses a useless message
2025-06-09T13:28:52  <acidsys> makes sense
2025-06-09T13:31:27  <cboltz> for mynetworks - does it really make sense to list some (but not all) /64, or should we just allow all   2a07:de40:b27e:1[12]xx::*   (+ IP ranges we use in other locations)?
2025-06-09T13:47:04  <acidsys> we want to avoid malfunctioning application which does not need relay access to gain relay access regardless
2025-06-09T13:49:40  <cboltz> ok, that's an argument - but then, we should ideally have a list of VMs that send mails to the world (wikis, progress, code.o.o, tsp, ...) instead of listing some /64
2025-06-09T13:53:35  <acidsys> would be nice
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