2025-03-13T00:05:05  <acidsys> SFaulken: did you do any other browsing on lists.o.o leading up to that? the /held_messages page is only ~11 requests to lists.o.o which is way below the rate limit. other possibility is that your IP address is shared with others :)
2025-03-13T00:05:25  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> nope.
2025-03-13T00:05:49  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> I can assure you, in this house, I'd be the only person that might be hitting something in the *.opensuse.org namespace  =P
2025-03-13T00:06:10  <acidsys> I mean, CGNAT or similar?
2025-03-13T00:07:22  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> shouldn't be.  I mean, I can't guarantee that centurylink isn't doing something sketchy upstream of me, but the IP my router gets assigned isn't behind any NAT that I'm aware of.
2025-03-13T00:07:55  <acidsys> I see, then it's rather odd. well if it happens again you can send the IP address and I can grep for it
2025-03-13T00:08:10  <acidsys> you can get the IP address we see from you at https://ip.opensuse.org
2025-03-13T00:09:39  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> yeah, it's working fine now, I just waited about ten minutes and tried again.
2025-03-13T01:53:00  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2025-03-13T06:10:08  <matrix-o-o> <e73va> Searching in the mailing lists with the upper right input field returns 'An error occurred while processing your request.'
2025-03-13T09:00:49  <acidsys> e73va: thanks, repaired
2025-03-13T10:45:12  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2025-03-13T15:10:26  <matrix-o-o> <foursixnine> Hey Peeps! I am wondering where is the place to request write permissions for https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OpenQA? page is blocked from edits
2025-03-13T15:15:09  <acidsys> hi foursixnine, that page inherits restrictions from Main_Page, it's only possible to give you write access everywhere, a short ticket in https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-admin/issues for tracking will do
2025-03-13T15:20:44  <matrix-o-o> <foursixnine> thanks acidsys, created https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/178843
2025-03-13T15:24:17  <cboltz> nice, race conditions on fixing a ticket ;-)
2025-03-13T15:24:31  <acidsys> :D
2025-03-13T15:26:50  <matrix-o-o> <foursixnine> lol
2025-03-13T15:26:59  <acidsys> cboltz: whist at it, I notice I don't have an Edit section after searching for a user in Special:UserRights, is it supposed to be possible to modify groups through the UI?
2025-03-13T15:32:14  <cboltz> try again ;-)
2025-03-13T15:59:13  <acidsys> ah Bureaucrats is required?
2025-03-13T15:59:23  <cboltz> yes
2025-03-13T15:59:30  <acidsys> thanks!
2025-03-13T16:32:16  <acidsys> the test failures are really weird now, I wonder if recent gitlab(-runner)? upgrade broke something
2025-03-13T16:32:35  <acidsys> for example https://gitlab.infra.opensuse.org/infra/salt/-/jobs/404539 just stopped with no output and artifact is an empty text file
2025-03-13T16:32:49  <cboltz> at least our recent changes in git are _not_ an explanation
2025-03-13T16:59:15  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> cboltz: acidsys did some of the spam rules get omitted on the rollback as seeing some coming through on forums-admin that should be held so can just reject
2025-03-13T17:02:01  <acidsys> I only changed packages, header rules configuration is in database ..
2025-03-13T17:03:41  <cboltz> same for me, I only worked on the packages
2025-03-13T17:04:22  <cboltz> just an idea - maybe that spam was quite small? The list settings send everything > 40 kB to moderation
2025-03-13T17:15:28  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> cboltz: Ahh maybe that was it...
2025-03-13T17:22:41  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> cboltz: I wonder if 30K is better?
2025-03-13T17:25:05  <cboltz> not really IMHO
2025-03-13T17:25:48  <cboltz> the more interesting question is - who is typically posting to forums-admins? If it's only the subscribers (maybe + an automated bot with a constant sender), then moderating all non-members would be an option
2025-03-13T17:47:43  <cboltz> acidsys: looks like your ruff changes fixed the CI :-)
2025-03-13T17:47:56  <cboltz> can you please rebase 2381?
2025-03-13T21:25:54  <matrix-o-o> <hendersj> forums-admins usually is people who are having trouble logging in or creating an account (which we then need to redirect).  Probably not generally joining the list to send one message - it's used more like a mail alias to get messages to the forums admin team than anything.  Don't know that subscribers-only makes sense there.
2025-03-13T21:40:35  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> hendersj: cboltz yes it's just a email pipe to us...
2025-03-13T21:40:42  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> no subscribers
2025-03-13T21:46:11  <cboltz> ok, that makes moderating non-subscribers a bad idea
2025-03-13T21:51:19  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> cboltz: well not really, I reject more traffic because spam that actual emails...
2025-03-13T21:51:59  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> This week at least 5 spam vs 1 actual email
2025-03-13T21:52:49  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> and still received 1 spam email
2025-03-13T21:55:49  <cboltz> great :-/ - but with two people receiving the forums-admin mails, having one person moderate them doesn't look like a big win to me (my opinion, yours might be different)
2025-03-13T22:17:28  <matrix-o-o> <hendersj> Probably three of us, but yeah, it doesn't make sense to me either.  If we could do some spam filtering, it would be good, but the volume is generally pretty low.  My biggest concern is that tagging it as spam gets the list address blocked by gmail (which is who I use), but so far that's not been a problem.
2025-03-13T22:19:19  <cboltz> just checked - subscribers are Malcolm and you, no third person
2025-03-13T22:19:54  <cboltz> better spam filtering is somewhere on the TODO list, but not at the top of the list
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2025-03-13T22:36:57  <acidsys> cboltz: done, but there were also some weird failures outside of the "lint" step which runs ruff. well if it's stable again now ..
2025-03-13T22:38:00  <cboltz> thanks
2025-03-13T22:38:15  <cboltz> we'll see what happens with the CI ;-)
2025-03-13T22:42:31  <cboltz> looks good :-)
2025-03-13T22:59:24  <matrix-o-o> <hendersj> Thanks for checking.  Gertjan probably should be as well, but let us chat with him about that.