2024-07-31T01:08:26  <a-865k> forum has halted connectivity in the middle of reply composition again
2024-07-31T01:09:40  <a-865k> status page claims community OK
2024-07-31T01:20:22  <a-865k> still cannot access
2024-07-31T01:23:32  <matrix-o-o> <knurpht - Gertjan> Summer holidays, middle of the night for most of the heroes....... Just wait
2024-07-31T01:27:37  * matrix-o-o malcolmlewis always goes and grabs a coffee...
2024-07-31T01:28:00  <a-865k> not repeating report can mean transient problem cleared itself
2024-07-31T01:34:02  <matrix-o-o> <knurpht - Gertjan> a-865k: repeating after 10m does and should not wake up sleeping admins.
2024-07-31T01:52:52  <a-865k> I learned at least 4 decades ago to disable sound when I need sleep. :)
2024-07-31T04:52:43  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> Forums are down. I updated status.o.o
2024-07-31T04:55:35  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> discourse-update.service has failed
2024-07-31T04:56:46  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> "Gem::LoadError: can't activate webrick-1.7.0, already activated webrick-1.8.1 (Gem::LoadError)"
2024-07-31T05:00:01  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> This could come from "plugins/discourse-prometheus/plugin.rb:gem "webrick", "1.7.0""
2024-07-31T05:05:15  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> also the error page cannot fetch https://static.opensuse.org/chameleon-3.0/dist/css/chameleon.css for some reason - maybe cross-site security?
2024-07-31T05:07:48  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> and after a reboot forums.o.o is back.
2024-07-31T05:09:28  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> https://github.com/discourse/discourse-prometheus/commit/f05579a59f4222957379e4e25c600ce56ed9ab36 is already upstream.
2024-07-31T05:12:52  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> and a small post-mortem: https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/1egf1gu/forumsoo_is_back/
2024-07-31T05:38:42  <matrix-o-o> <Karthik (కార్తీక్)> acidsys: i cannot run the script as i am not part of the heroes group. you could give it a try
2024-07-31T08:13:35  <acidsys> Karthik: forgot, will add you shortly
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2024-07-31T09:31:23  <acidsys> Karthik: added
2024-07-31T11:34:47  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> bmwiedemann: thank you 😄
2024-07-31T13:04:16  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2024-07-31T14:35:02  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> I went and updated the openSUSE Space on Matrix to use subspaces
2024-07-31T14:35:29  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> cinny nicely displays these as categories, which is cool
2024-07-31T14:41:23  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> nheko displays them as subspaces which is also nice for organisation :)
2024-07-31T14:41:50  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> and unlike element it doesnt show rooms from subspaces in the root space
2024-07-31T15:40:27  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> I sometimes wonder if people who use matrix even use spaces because it's such a mess sometimes in other spaces
2024-07-31T15:40:49  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> I have so many rooms outside of spaces they clearly belong to
2024-07-31T15:41:31  <SFaulken> @LCP if you wanted to add the Kalpa channel back to the openSUSE space, I wouldn't complain  =P   I don't have the admin access to do it myself
2024-07-31T15:43:18  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> LCP: i use spaces _a lot_
2024-07-31T15:43:33  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> though admittedly the UX to manage them in nheko _sucks_
2024-07-31T15:43:57  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> SFaulken: it is in the space for me
2024-07-31T15:44:05  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> make sure you join the projects subspace
2024-07-31T15:44:21  <SFaulken> I've not actually checked, just been told by others that it wasn't showing up.
2024-07-31T15:44:40  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> https://matrix.opensuse.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/rory.gay/VXgWfeeBvZrgmaeBQcvilxab/clipboard.png
2024-07-31T15:44:41  <matrix-o-o> <LCP> yeah, you need to join subspaces for that to work
2024-07-31T15:44:43  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> do i use spaces? :p
2024-07-31T15:45:55  <SFaulken> apparently neochat doesn't handle spaces/subspaces very well.
2024-07-31T15:46:22  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> _afaik_ neither neochat nor gnome's thing support spaces properly
2024-07-31T15:47:12  <SFaulken> fractal is the one I see most often on gnome, I think.
2024-07-31T15:48:03  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> i think thats their gnome client iirc
2024-07-31T15:48:17  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> iirc fractal doesnt support spaces at all unless they recently added it
2024-07-31T15:48:42  <SFaulken> It has spaces support, I don't remember how good it is, it's the client I use on my bluefin machine out in the garage.
2024-07-31T15:49:30  <SFaulken> it's been about a month since I've touched that machine, ebcause I haven't been home
2024-07-31T17:14:16  <matrix-o-o> <Richard Rahl> I use fractal (the gnome thing) and it doesnt support spaces. Literally 1 out of 2 reasons i use it. I just hate spaces
2024-07-31T17:18:49  <acidsys> I was lacking context at first and thought your Matrix client does not support typing whitespace.
2024-07-31T17:18:50  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> Emma [it/its]: fractal is the Matrix client, Polari is the IRC client
2024-07-31T17:19:10  <SFaulken> I don't remember if fractal is a "Core App" or not, I know polari is.
2024-07-31T17:20:06  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> Richard Rahl: i cant live without spaces, way too useful
2024-07-31T17:20:09  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> I use Element on GNME 😉
2024-07-31T17:20:20  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> * GNOME
2024-07-31T17:21:10  <matrix-o-o> <Richard Rahl> Emma [it/its]: well i use matrix only for opensuse stuff. So i only use 1 space, so what element shows me is just overkill
2024-07-31T17:24:02  <SFaulken> I'd probably use element, but A) friggin Electron, B) Zero multi-account support, and C) I hate having three browser tabs open for matrix, or using "web apps" in a browser, unless I actually have to.
2024-07-31T17:25:02  <matrix-o-o> <malcolmlewis> SFaulken: thankfully I have three screens.. one for Element, one for Hexchat and one for Slack...
2024-07-31T17:25:44  <SFaulken> lets see, right now, I have Telegram, Signal, Gajim, Neochat, Discord, Revolt, and IRC in a Konsole up on my screen.
2024-07-31T17:26:03  <matrix-o-o> <Richard Rahl> Revolt? Isnt that a cc company?
2024-07-31T17:26:18  <matrix-o-o> <Richard Rahl> Or rather fintech
2024-07-31T17:26:23  <SFaulken> no, it's basically an opensource "alternative" to Discord.
2024-07-31T17:27:58  <matrix-o-o> <Richard Rahl> Ahh. Never heard about it.
2024-07-31T17:54:57  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> SFaulken: the desktop version supports profiles via the cli fwiw
2024-07-31T17:54:58  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> but yes, electron
2024-07-31T17:55:23  <SFaulken> Emma:  Yeah, I'm too lazy to figure out how to do that  =P
2024-07-31T17:55:34  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> Richard Rahl: the fintech company is Revol_*u*_t :p
2024-07-31T17:55:47  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> SFaulken: "element-desktop-nightly --profile=something"
2024-07-31T17:56:38  <SFaulken> ok, now translat that to a "flatpak run" command  =P
2024-07-31T17:59:12  <matrix-o-o> <Richard Rahl> Emma [it/its]: D'oh, you are right
2024-07-31T17:59:45  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> SFaulken: "flatpak run whatever.the.fuck -- --profile=something"? (i dont know flatpak)
2024-07-31T18:01:58  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> * im.riot.Riot
2024-07-31T18:02:34  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> +--enable-features=UseOzonePlatform,WebRTCPipeWireCapturer --ozone-platform=wayland
2024-07-31T18:04:13  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> that command should be correct SFaulken
2024-07-31T18:04:58  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> though thats not element nightly, just regular element :p
2024-07-31T18:10:52  <SFaulken> =P
2024-07-31T18:11:20  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> i just made up that command from the first command ref i could find on google fwiw, dont yell at me if it doesnt work :p
2024-07-31T18:11:44  <matrix-o-o> <SFaulken> Oh, I'd figure it out, if neochat was bugging me enough to want to switch =P
2024-07-31T18:21:34  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> ive never used flatpak before :p
2024-07-31T18:21:52  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> so its not exactly that i could just... try it lol
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