2024-05-22T00:57:07 as the person who gets to see and deny most of the spam, it has got much better at one point I was rejecting 20-30 emails a day before they hit the list 2024-05-22T00:58:19 acidsys, I think we have Factory and Project setup so that non subscribers require moderation and that seems to work reasonably well 2024-05-22T07:32:03 *** teepee_ is now known as teepee 2024-05-22T08:25:08 acidsys, i'm not sure how you encrypted that but I always get "gpg: decryption failed: Bad session key" when attempting to decrypt it 2024-05-22T08:26:30 although I can encrypt and decrypt a file fine on my machine, my old gpg keys expired a while back and I reuploaded new ones, so maybe the one you have locally is out of date, or the interwebs was suggesting maybe gpg on your end is too old 2024-05-22T09:01:16 *** Son_Goku_ is now known as Son_Goku 2024-05-22T09:01:37 hi Simotek-Work, I didn't have your key I just used symmetric encryption and sent you the code 2024-05-22T09:10:35 Ok, i'm just heading out, where did you send the code, I think I must have missed it 2024-05-22T09:11:06 check /query crameleon_work 2024-05-22T09:11:38 oh but I think it was Simotek and not Simotek-Work. let me check 2024-05-22T09:12:28 Ahh, yeah if i'm using Simotek-Work that means my client has disconnected and Simotek isn't connected anywhere 2024-05-22T09:12:57 my bad, I missed the "no such user" response :D 2024-05-22T09:13:52 I've decrypted it now, thankyou 2024-05-22T09:14:15 kewl 2024-05-22T11:13:42 And another one on users@.l.o.o 2024-05-22T11:13:42 1kkaterinaaa@gmail.com 2024-05-22T11:18:35 If lcp is in the matrix part of this chat we should just make that list subscriber only like all the other major lists 2024-05-22T11:20:36 it is subscriber only 2024-05-22T11:24:08 I guess we need to ban that email address then, if you have time tomorrow evening or next week to quickly go through the admin process with me i'm happy to take over that part then also bring SFaulken on as another moderator to help 2024-05-22T11:25:06 Each mailing list has it's own ban list, correct? Or is there some shared one? I maintain one for https://lists.opensuse.org/manage/lists/sourcedvd.lists.opensuse.org/held_messages 2024-05-22T11:25:38 banning is easy and I can show you, but it is relatively pointless for throwaway addresses 2024-05-22T11:26:27 in mailman it's per list 2024-05-22T11:27:53 we could do something on mailserver or spam filter level but I think it's not really worth the effort 2024-05-22T11:27:57 oky, np then acidsys I got like 1-2 spam messages per week. So not much of an effort 2024-05-22T11:28:03 unless we just ban ^.*@gmail\.com$ ;-) 2024-05-22T11:29:30 acidsys: YEs please, and block on IDP too.... 2024-05-22T11:31:19 acidsys, that'd be great, I think currently my account only has moderator permissions rather then admin permissions so at the moment I can't make those changes, but if you make me an admin i'm happy to handle all the banning accounts etc work 2024-05-22T11:39:26 Simotek-Work: The whole spam/ban process is piece meal and whack-a-mole across the different platforms.... IMHO it should also be added to IDP so can't log in there as well... When we changed to IDP, I use to send info to progress for the email/ip to be banned...nothing ever happend, so we just deal with at a forum level, user an ip address banned 2024-05-22T11:48:05 I requested long ago *at least* a captcha to be implemented but that was never pursued 2024-05-22T11:48:20 from what I gathered spammers have figured out how to programatically register accounts with UCS self service 2024-05-22T11:48:54 so yes banning in individual services and especially randomly generated addresses is rather inefficient 2024-05-22T11:49:13 I don't know if you need to set up an idp account to subscribe to mailing lists, from memory we have a number of auth backends enabled so just IDP is probably not enough 2024-05-22T11:49:52 having said that on the mailing list side once we started requiring moderation for non subscribed members and setup a better mail filter it made the situation much better 2024-05-22T11:50:15 these days i'm dealing with maybe one spam email a week rather then the 30 per list per channel I was getting before 2024-05-22T11:50:51 i'm not sure while users@ is being targetted over other lists though 2024-05-22T12:24:00 Simotek-Work: you need to subscribe AFAIK, but that is an email process. Progress gets hammered.... 2024-05-22T12:24:45 yeah subscribe doesn't = idp account in the mailing list case as far as i'm aware 2024-05-22T14:56:48 *** teepee_ is now known as teepee 2024-05-22T16:59:39 Jacob Michalskie - do you recall what version of vBulletin was being used with the database dumps that I got? I've been trying to get it working (my setup uses a very old version of PHP - 5.3 - and mysql - 5.5 IIRC), and getting the data imported into that old database isn't working, and when I try to use a remote MariaDB 11.2.3 database (which is what the backup says it was backed up from), php flips out and refuses... 2024-05-22T16:59:44 ... to work properly. The Docker image I have is based on SLES11SP2 (which is what we ran it on at the time). 2024-05-22T17:00:52 I do not 2024-05-22T17:01:43 I figured it was a long shot. :) 2024-05-22T17:06:07 What I was able to determine just by looking at my test env, though, is that the platform supports both soft deletes and hard deletes, so for anything moderation-related that was rules/CoC (ie, not spam), we probably would have consistently soft deleted it so we'd have a history. 2024-05-22T17:11:32 if you're realy that motivated, I can give you the whole root file system of old forumsoo.i.o.o 2024-05-22T17:14:32 I'm going to take a look at the raw database and see if I can work out enough of the schema to just pull what I need without the forum software. Ultimately, since the information I'm trying to dig up is over a decade old, it's not super critical at this stage. But I'll keep that in mind if it does become more important to do so. 2024-05-22T17:21:25 it's a good call for me though to store all the old disks as images on backup.i.o.o so the LUNs can be deleted 2024-05-22T17:22:48 That makes sense to me