2024-05-21T05:18:29  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2024-05-21T08:04:00  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> I cleaned up dozens of spam tickets from the admin tracker. So the real ones are now easier to find.
2024-05-21T11:42:19  <henne> wiki seems to be down
2024-05-21T11:42:37  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> indeed. status.o.o updated.
2024-05-21T11:46:51  <cboltz> must have been a temporary problem - it works here
2024-05-21T11:47:11  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> henne: crameleon solved it. :-)
2024-05-21T11:50:11  <Simotek-Work> Anyone up for a challenge?
2024-05-21T11:51:08  <Simotek-Work> I'm looking for a backup of the old connect database, doesn't even have to be recent by connect terms, i'm mostly trying to extract the emeritus members list which didn't change for a long period
2024-05-21T11:59:11  <acidsys> it happened while configuring HA on SUSE login proxies, it was not set to use the right source address to connect to our openSUSE proxy .. thanks for reporting
2024-05-21T12:06:50  <acidsys> Simotek-Work: is that a SQL database?
2024-05-21T12:08:31  <acidsys> I found this directory but looks more like application sources https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/dad1b49ca14c
2024-05-21T12:12:59  <acidsys> found the SQL dump. do you have access to openSUSE Heroes VPN?
2024-05-21T12:15:38  <Simotek-Work> acidsys, no I don't not as far as I remember, application sources might also be useful if the data is slightly hard to extract
2024-05-21T12:16:46  <Simotek-Work> I have access to the SUSE Engineering VPN if that makes it any easier for someone to copy the data somewhere
2024-05-21T12:18:42  <Simotek-Work> but i'm also about to go to bed, I didn't think anyone would actually come up with the data that quick :-)
2024-05-21T12:21:34  <acidsys> https://w3.nue.suse.com/~gpfuetzenreuter/for-simon.tar.gpg
2024-05-21T12:29:34  <Simotek-Work> thanks got it, now to figure out how to get the list of emeritus members out of it :-)
2024-05-21T12:30:03  <acidsys> have fun ;)
2024-05-21T12:30:07  <Simotek-Work> but thats defiantly a tomorrow problem
2024-05-21T12:30:11  <acidsys> sleep well!
2024-05-21T12:31:24  <Simotek-Work> cheers enjoy the rest of your day
2024-05-21T12:31:45  <acidsys> thanks :)
2024-05-21T13:23:19  <acidsys> cboltz: I remembered later yesterday why matrix.i.o.o does HTTP requests against GitLab .. it's when we post a link to a merge request here, it renders a link preview on the Matrix end ^^
2024-05-21T13:45:23  <matrix-o-o> <Emma [it/its]> yeah previews are generated by the server
2024-05-21T14:12:59  *** DimStar_ is now known as Dimstar
2024-05-21T16:55:14  <matrix-o-o> <knurpht - Gertjan> And another spammer on users@l.o.o
2024-05-21T16:55:14  <matrix-o-o> Robert Kja afiafiafiafiuivfafia@gmail.com
2024-05-21T17:00:32  <acidsys> robert's cat run over the keyboard and registered a gmail ?
2024-05-21T17:01:09  <matrix-o-o> <bmwiedemann> it was trained to recognize busses and traffic lights.
2024-05-21T17:01:44  <acidsys> :D
2024-05-21T17:14:22  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2024-05-21T17:28:52  <cboltz> I wonder if we should change the mailman config so that new subscribers get moderated by default - and once they sent their first mail, remove the moderation flag
2024-05-21T17:29:32  <cboltz> that's not really nice, but I have a feeling that we currently have more new spammers than new sane people on the mailinglists
2024-05-21T17:30:27  <cboltz> (doing that on the most-spammed MLs would be enough)
2024-05-21T18:04:34  <SFaulken> to some extent, if we had enough moderators, having those sorts of lists just be moderated by default would be the best option.   But I know that rarely works out.
2024-05-21T18:06:02  <cboltz> I don't think moderating each and every mail is a good idea (even with enough moderators)
2024-05-21T18:06:17  <SFaulken> in so far as "is this spam" not for content otherwise.
2024-05-21T18:06:26  <SFaulken> if there's not any reasonable autmated tools to do it.
2024-05-21T18:07:11  <cboltz> AFAIK mailman has an option to set new subscribers to moderated, which should making moderation only for these new people (or spammers) quite easy
2024-05-21T18:09:56  <SFaulken> yeah, if that's there, that's pretty reasonable.
2024-05-21T18:17:30  <cboltz> hmm, I have to admit that I'm more familiar with mailman 2 than with mailman 3
2024-05-21T18:17:41  <cboltz> I'm quite sure mailman 2 had this feature in its settings
2024-05-21T18:18:07  <cboltz> however, I can't find it in the settings of a mailman 3 list, so either I'm blind, or it's no longer there :-(
2024-05-21T18:22:48  <cboltz> there's a "confirm then moderate" in the subscription policy, but I'm not sure if that means "moderate the subscription" or "set the user to moderated"
2024-05-21T18:25:16  <a-865k> note source of Robert Kja <afiafiafiafiuivfafia@gmail.com> spam was HyperKitty on lists.opensuse.org. :(
2024-05-21T18:27:10  <cboltz> right, the question how these are handled is the next interesting topic which I can't really answer
2024-05-21T18:28:48  <acidsys> https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/2ZS25K7SZ4EUVZ54IR3VO7IGOEVVQEPT/
2024-05-21T18:29:43  <cboltz> at least I was able to test the subscription policy - it means the subscription itsself needs to be accepted, which has limited value because we only see the mail address of the new member
2024-05-21T18:31:41  <cboltz> acidsys: I'm glad to see that there is a way, even if it's not as obvious as in mailman 2
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