2023-11-14T05:56:28  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2023-11-14T10:57:11  <acidsys> download.o.o moving now
2023-11-14T11:01:30  <anikitin> ^-^
2023-11-14T13:20:56  <darix> download.opensuse.org should be back. please report any issues, you see, here.
2023-11-14T13:35:53  <malcolmlewis> acidsys and darix users have reported verification emails arriving...
2023-11-14T13:46:51  <acidsys> neat
2023-11-14T14:59:29  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2023-11-14T17:07:10  <acidsys> went through all the vm's which had failing repositories .. lots of unmanaged urls, duplicate .repo files, pointing to non-existing directories .. ugh. now all refresh cleanly
2023-11-14T18:08:23  <acidsys> finally mastered color in the terminal and plain text in the file at the same time .. `unbuffer salt \* test.ping | pee tee 'ansifilter | tee /dev/shm/out >/dev/null'`
2023-11-14T19:38:44  <cboltz_> acidsys: for SR 1126449 - wouldn't changing the parameters to   goodout.sh <outfile> <command>   make things much easier?
2023-11-14T19:39:02  <cboltz_> Instead of the parameter magic, you could just save $1 and then   shift
2023-11-14T19:40:16  <acidsys> hi cboltz_
2023-11-14T19:40:28  <acidsys> I agree it would make the script much simpler
2023-11-14T19:41:12  <acidsys> my rationale was that I potentially want to run the same command with different file names repeatedly though, making it easier not having to modify an argument at the beginning of a long line
2023-11-14T19:41:50  <cboltz_> is that harder than modifying the end of the line? ;-)
2023-11-14T19:41:57  <acidsys> QQ: does the shift thing work in sh ?
2023-11-14T19:42:19  <acidsys> yes it is because you need to jump around with arrow keys
2023-11-14T19:43:02  <acidsys> arrow up -> pos1 -> ctrl + right arrow -> <del> vs arrow up -> <backspace>
2023-11-14T19:43:37  <cboltz_> hehe, probably depends on your bash config - with   set -o vi   I type   esc k w   and have the cursor at the beginning of the first parameter
2023-11-14T19:44:08  <acidsys> o_o
2023-11-14T19:44:16  <cboltz_> https://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_07.html says   The shift command is one of the Bourne shell built-ins that comes with Bash.    so I'd say it should be sh-compatible
2023-11-14T19:44:51  <acidsys> cool because that would be an argument I can live with :] the pound foo would run in sh but return empty
2023-11-14T19:51:57  <darix> tbh sh compat only matters if your shebang line is /bin/sh
2023-11-14T19:52:04  <darix> if you do /bin/bash ... go wild
2023-11-14T19:52:18  <darix> or even better ... use ruby or python instead of /bin/*sh
2023-11-14T19:53:18  <acidsys> the whole point is being able to make the shebang /bin/sh
2023-11-14T19:53:28  <darix> why?
2023-11-14T19:53:31  <darix> what do you gain from it?
2023-11-14T19:53:42  <acidsys> running without bash
2023-11-14T19:54:45  <acidsys> bash-derived sh is still a bit cheating though. i like testing against dash
2023-11-14T19:55:18  <darix> you can go busybox-sh if you want to go hardcore :p
2023-11-14T19:57:48  <acidsys> yes, my minimal busybox containers use it
2023-11-14T19:58:31  <acidsys> if something does not _need_ some bash functionality I like making it compatible with systems which do not have bash
2023-11-14T19:58:57  <acidsys> if on the other hand a script is very big and complex and will only ever be run on a normal openSUSE, well then I also don't have a problem going bash+
2023-11-14T19:59:03  <darix> me too. i change the she bang line to #/usr/bin/ruby ... then i can launch the script from every shell ;)
2023-11-14T19:59:22  <darix> _runs_
2023-11-14T19:59:32  * acidsys removes darix' ruby interpreter
2023-11-14T19:59:50  <acidsys> ruby ruby rubyyyy!
2023-11-14T20:00:06  <darix> i think you will have more pain from me removing /bin/sh than from you removing /usr/bin/ruby ;D
2023-11-14T20:00:44  <acidsys> well you are the one who just stated you just change all your shebangs to /usr/bin/ruby ^^
2023-11-14T20:01:09  <darix> well ... sure ... but you have to see it holistically :D
2023-11-14T20:01:28  <darix> your system will break much more with /bin/sh removed compared to /usr/bin/ruby
2023-11-14T20:01:31  <darix> good luck fixing that!
2023-11-14T20:01:57  <darix> had do to that once ... where a coadmin called rm -r * in the wrong dir ...