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2023-06-28T09:28:37  <Dominik[m]> still the issue on the opensuse.org start page:
2023-06-28T09:28:41  * Dominik[m] uploaded an image: (11KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/im.f3l.de/YvyBpywyJsfESJdxcWQJaBqV/image.png >
2023-06-28T09:28:48  <LubosKocman[m]> Dominik: will fix
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2023-06-28T17:32:19  <mdogg> Messages from Matrix/Discord are transferring to IRC but IRC messages are not transmitting back to Matrix.  Is there a way to resolve this?
2023-06-28T17:41:37  <acidsys> from what I was told the appservice bridge IRC <-> Matrix is operated by Libera and not by us, so asking in #libera or their admin channel would probably be a good idea?
2023-06-28T17:45:48  <mdogg> Oh, is that right?  I can check in #Libera then.
2023-06-28T17:47:53  <acidsys> if I remember correctly from what lcp told me, yes. and if I look up the IP addresses from some of the Matrix users it's definitely not coming from our network, so checks out
2023-06-28T17:48:06  <acidsys> if you ask them about it that would be great
2023-06-28T17:48:10  <mdogg> Checking..
2023-06-28T17:49:47  <mdogg> [2023-06-28 10:48:47] <moonmoon> nothing we can do about it
2023-06-28T17:49:47  <mdogg> [2023-06-28 10:49:07] <nckx> mdogg: I'm not staff or anything, but the person who told you that might themselves have been misinformed.  Libera doesn't run the bridge
2023-06-28T17:49:47  <mdogg> [2023-06-28 10:49:13] <moonmoon> we don't operate the bridge, and we don't have any special privileges on the bridge
2023-06-28T17:51:29  <mdogg> [2023-06-28 10:49:13] <phy1729> See #libera-matrix https://libera.chat/guides/faq#can-i-connect-with-matrix
2023-06-28T17:51:40  <mdogg> I'm looking at that page..
2023-06-28T18:51:59  <luc14n0> mdogg, acidsys: It's not Libera. Element is the one running the Libera.chat Matrix instance.
2023-06-28T18:57:48  <acidsys> isn't Element just a client for Matrix
2023-06-28T18:58:39  <luc14n0> There's the company behind the development.
2023-06-28T18:58:45  <acidsys> aha ..
2023-06-28T18:58:58  <acidsys> then sorry for the wrong information mdogg
2023-06-28T18:59:13  <mdogg> Oh don't worry about it bro.
2023-06-28T18:59:25  <mdogg> We all learned something.  That's all that matters.
2023-06-28T19:10:01  <luc14n0> But I feel like there could be something going on on our side of things. I say this because even though there's about 10% of messages being silently dropped - Matrix (thus, Discord too) users don't see them. I wonder what's the workflow for e.g. the openSUSE Support Matrix room, if messages from #opensuse IRC go first to the Libera.chat's Matrix instance, then to our openSUSE Support Matrix room. Or do they go directly to our Matrix room
2023-06-28T19:10:01  <luc14n0> instead.
2023-06-28T19:12:27  <acidsys> the bridge would go to whichever matrix instance the bridge operator configured
2023-06-28T19:12:41  <acidsys> from there it's federated to ours I would say
2023-06-28T19:17:58  <acidsys> it's also possible there is federation delay with us
2023-06-28T19:39:33  <luc14n0> Based on what I've read in a ticket, the federation delay issue seems to be at least part of our infra.
2023-06-28T19:40:32  <lcp[m]> I mean the libera bridge is connected with their synapse, so it has to go through that first
2023-06-28T19:42:15  <luc14n0> Hmm, so the message comes from Libera.chat's Matrix instance, huh.
2023-06-28T19:42:30  <lcp[m]> it does
2023-06-28T19:42:56  <lcp[m]> there's no real good way to implement that differently
2023-06-28T19:45:13  <luc14n0> That make things more complex. I have even seen messages not getting in the Libera Matrix instance, but appearing on our Matrix room 🤔
2023-06-28T19:46:33  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2023-06-28T19:47:54  <luc14n0> Oh, I think it was a message sent from a Discord user, the message didn't show in our Matrix instance, but I could see it in the IRC room with an IRC client.
2023-06-28T19:50:07  <luc14n0> Let's hope something better than Synapse comes up. Python is great, but speed is not its strongest suit.
2023-06-28T19:50:30  <lcp[m]> I wish I was that confident it's just synapse
2023-06-28T19:51:38  <luc14n0> That, or Guido figuring out a way to make Python faster. At least that was his goal when joining MS instead of retiring.
2023-06-28T19:52:30  <SFaulken[m]> rewrite it in rust!
2023-06-28T19:52:37  <SFaulken[m]> isn't the the solution to everything?
2023-06-28T19:53:03  <lcp[m]> there is a homeserver in rust
2023-06-28T19:53:03  <lcp[m]> besides one in go
2023-06-28T19:53:15  <lcp[m]> there are options out there
2023-06-28T19:54:48  <luc14n0> The thing is we migrate to it, then after a while the development gets stuck 😅
2023-06-28T19:55:43  <luc14n0> SFaulken[m]: Yeah, Rust is spreading.
2023-06-28T19:56:54  <lcp[m]> it cured my cancer
2023-06-28T19:57:45  <luc14n0> Huh?
2023-06-28T20:08:29  <lcp[m]> I'm joking
2023-06-28T20:25:28  <acidsys> I tried dendrite once after getting annoyed with Synapse and it did not cure my annoyance
2023-06-28T20:27:07  <acidsys> we could enable the federation metrics
2023-06-28T20:27:31  <acidsys> https://matrix-org.github.io/synapse/latest/usage/configuration/config_documentation.html#federation_metrics_domains
2023-06-28T20:29:39  <SFaulken> yeah, dendrite comes with it's own set of issues.
2023-06-28T20:34:28  <luc14n0> Right, I had the feeling you were.