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2023-05-16T11:01:11  <pjessen> Hoi zusammen,  do we need to add a license to code written only for us internally? if so, which one?
2023-05-16T12:38:48  <acidsys> pjessen: I'm not sure about any policies specific to openSUSE, if you want to open-source your code (which I hope) I would say you can pick whatever you like
2023-05-16T12:39:50  <acidsys> SUSE corporate suggests Apache or GPL and I think GPL is a fair choice for most openSUSE stuff as well
2023-05-16T12:40:12  <acidsys> of course, IANAL ;-)
2023-05-16T12:43:09  <bmwiedemann[m]> GPLv2+ though
2023-05-16T12:44:44  <acidsys> oh of course. I usually do three or later
2023-05-16T12:45:39  <bmwiedemann[m]> but then it will be incompatible to v2-only code
2023-05-16T12:46:54  <acidsys> interesting, do you think it's important for "general" stuff to be compatible with v2 only code? i.e. things which mostly target a community audience
2023-05-16T12:48:17  <bmwiedemann[m]> It helps in some cases.
2023-05-16T12:58:38  <acidsys> I see
2023-05-16T12:59:38  <acidsys> can someone add me to the openSUSE GitHub organization? I would like to add my CI app to a repository but it seems it's only possible with organization access
2023-05-16T13:01:05  <acidsys> though I'm not sure if this is needed additionally https://docs.github.com/en/organizations/managing-programmatic-access-to-your-organization/adding-and-removing-github-app-managers-in-your-organization#giving-someone-the-ability-to-manage-an-individual-github-app
2023-05-16T13:05:14  <LCP0968[m]> I mean, we do have software that's agpl in openSUSE infra so the compatibility goes out the window anyway
2023-05-16T13:06:20  <bmwiedemann[m]> indeed, not everything has to be compatible to everything else.
2023-05-16T13:06:24  <cboltz> for maximum compability (maybe except with some people who don't like the name ;-) there's the WTFPL *g,d&r*
2023-05-16T13:06:51  <bmwiedemann[m]> better CC0
2023-05-16T13:07:18  <cboltz> acidsys: looks like you have to be an org member before I can make you an app manager - invite sent
2023-05-16T13:07:50  <bmwiedemann[m]> but it is not always the best choice.
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2023-05-16T16:03:52  <acidsys> hey cboltz, thanks for the invite, I accepted it
2023-05-16T16:05:43  <acidsys> it seems for the button to appear it does need this "app manager" thing too .. though if you prefer to try adding it from your end first I could send you the link
2023-05-16T16:34:16  <cboltz> I just added you as app manager
2023-05-16T16:36:40  <acidsys> very cool, thank you
2023-05-16T16:40:44  <acidsys> hm it still doesn't offer me openSUSE as a button :-( https://hugz.io/sp8g9j/20230516183858.png
2023-05-16T16:41:26  <acidsys> it surely must be possible to add a private app to a single repository in another organization somehow ?
2023-05-16T16:43:17  <cboltz> no idea, i never needed it ;-)
2023-05-16T16:44:57  <cboltz> on the list of people who can manage github apps, I don't see any permission level (besides being listed there). Most people there are also org owners - not sure if that matters
2023-05-16T16:45:48  <acidsys> well I do have an option to create an app underneath openSUSE/ now.. so maybe if I don't find a way to use my private app in the org I could make a new one there
2023-05-16T16:46:22  <acidsys> though I'll have to investigate if that's not a "problem"
2023-05-16T16:46:58  <acidsys> maybe I would faster to just make a new app _and_ install a separate Jenkins server ;-)
2023-05-16T16:48:49  <pjessen> Sorry, I was busy elsewhere.  I dont care about the license myself, anyone can copy the code, I was just wondering about the right license for our infrastructure stuff.  What was the consensus?
2023-05-16T16:49:15  <acidsys> the consensus is, everyone has their favourite license, and you are about to find yours
2023-05-16T16:53:36  <acidsys> ah I found the "problem" .. https://hugz.io/4gyw38/20230516185312.png one can only make an app "installable" on either "any" or only one account .. one cannot pick individiual accounts
2023-05-16T16:53:53  <acidsys> so I will have to make a separate one
2023-05-16T16:56:05  <pjessen> acidsys: not helpful :-)   I guess the real question ought to be - is a license needed?
2023-05-16T16:56:34  <acidsys> sorry, +I wouldn't know
2023-05-16T16:56:46  <cboltz> yes, because no license basically means you do not grant anything (so technically it's forbidden / not allowed to use or copy your stuff)
2023-05-16T16:58:03  <cboltz> I tend to use GPL (whatever version), but your description sounds more like the more permissive licenses: BSD, CC0 or (if you prefer one with a funy name) WTFPL
2023-05-16T16:59:46  <pjessen> right, that was my gut feeling.  LIcense is needed, even if I don't care. I just want to make sure that we, openSUSE, don't somehow end up with some weird and wonderful licensing issue
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2023-05-16T21:47:39  <Luciano[m]> Hmm, @_discord_bot is missing from #opensuse. Anyone knows how to put it back to work there?
2023-05-16T21:58:10  <Luciano[m]> Strange, going directly on IRC with an IRC user I see a _discord_bot[m]1 there 🤔
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