2023-01-10T01:34:33  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2023-01-10T06:35:34  <a-865k> all 15.3 update/sle are hanging trying to refresh, e.g. http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/update/leap/15.3/sle/repodata/
2023-01-10T06:36:29  <a-865k> *-primary.xml.gz is missing
2023-01-10T06:46:19  <a-865k> http://mirror.mia11.us.leaseweb.net/opensuse/update/leap/15.3/sle/repodata/0ee76e533ad265d654314b655a63972b5415ce2207c148b67afcca1698625242-primary.xml.gz seems to exist but zypper times out trying to retrieve, because bandwidth is tiny fraction of reasonable, 2hr+ ETA to fetch
2023-01-10T07:49:10  <pjessen> a-865k: it seems to have arrived http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/update/leap/15.3/sle/repodata/0ee76e533ad265d654314b655a63972b5415ce2207c148b67afcca1698625242-primary.xml.gz
2023-01-10T08:01:32  <a-865k> I finally got it from mirror.mia11.us.leaseweb.net
2023-01-10T11:25:57  <anikitin> is it known that it is impossible to login to bugzilla.o.o until I login to forums? Or was it some glitch?
2023-01-10T11:27:58  <Luciano[m]> Yeah, this issue is quite known.
2023-01-10T11:28:29  <LubosKocman[m]> I did started to login to bugzilla.suse.com instead and then just re-type the url :-)
2023-01-10T11:28:34  <bmwiedemann[m]> should be independent of forums, though
2023-01-10T11:28:48  <bmwiedemann[m]> it just needs some tries for unknown reasons
2023-01-10T11:29:09  <Luciano[m]> anikitin: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/113069
2023-01-10T11:30:03  <anikitin> ah. ok thx
2023-01-10T11:32:43  <Luciano[m]> Sometimes even bugzilla.s.c gives me trouble.
2023-01-10T11:38:17  <acidsys> as sad as it is, if it's not an IDP issue there's not reason to keep these tickets open
2023-01-10T11:38:49  <acidsys> the team maintaining the Bugzilla application doesn't even have accounts on progress.opensuse.org
2023-01-10T11:40:10  <acidsys> I'm not sure why we even have a category for it
2023-01-10T11:43:01  <Luciano[m]> I just wished to know how one debugs such issues, rather than shrugging when someone asks what have you done so far.
2023-01-10T11:44:48  <acidsys> the problem is if an application is maintained by an internal team which does not have any openSUSE volunteers inside
2023-01-10T11:46:12  <acidsys> because there is (as far as I can tell from my short time of experience) no corporate obligation for teams to care about openSUSE issues. Bugzilla is a prime example - the only time I see actual changes happening is as reactions to internal Jira tickets
2023-01-10T11:47:11  <acidsys> it's annoying me as well but I think this is something the board should discuss with corporate
2023-01-10T11:47:35  <acidsys> the dozens of idling tickets (both in p.o.o and in the openSUSE component in BZ) don't help anyone
2023-01-10T11:51:15  <Luciano[m]> AFAICT the SUSE "Legacy applications" (or something) has some kind of obligations towards bugzilla.o.o, because it has to keep a certain synchrony with bugzilla.s.c. Otherwise the openSUSE community would be maintaining the instance instead, shouldn't it?
2023-01-10T11:51:48  <bmwiedemann[m]> bugzilla.suse.com and bugzilla.opensuse.org are the same server - it just applies different default theming.
2023-01-10T11:52:53  <Luciano[m]> Oh, I wasn't expecting them to be the same thing!
2023-01-10T11:53:10  <bmwiedemann[m]> both resolve to 195.135.220.27
2023-01-10T11:53:59  <Luciano[m]> Argh! That's right.
2023-01-10T11:57:24  <Luciano[m]> I agree with acidsys then. The board should handle it.
2023-01-10T12:05:31  <Luciano[m]> Trying to login while having a web console on FF, I see a bunch of "undefined" on unsuccessful login attempts, all pointing to inject.js.
2023-01-10T12:18:43  <acidsys> hi Lubos, do you know about TLS on this ciscobinary host? the redirect works but https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/0a66b2729a56
2023-01-10T12:19:35  <acidsys> would be cool if we don't have to tell people to skip tls verification
2023-01-10T12:19:39  <LubosKocman[m]> uh I was not ever of this
2023-01-10T12:21:33  <acidsys> it seems Fedora just redirect to http https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/f78e34ae93e0
2023-01-10T12:21:43  <acidsys> but that's a bit ugly because if I browse a https mirror I expect the full path to be https
2023-01-10T12:22:01  <acidsys> maybe we can ask them now that they have their plushies? ;)
2023-01-10T12:22:12  <LubosKocman[m]> I was actually thinking of the same solution
2023-01-10T12:22:56  <LubosKocman[m]> can we use http for now and track it as a future topic for upcoming cisco call?
2023-01-10T12:23:05  <acidsys> sure, shall I note it somewhere?
2023-01-10T12:24:50  <bmwiedemann[m]> http should be fine as integrity+authenticity is ensured by gpg signatures on the repo
2023-01-10T12:36:14  <acidsys> bmwiedemann[m]: sure but my issue is that we are serving our part of the repository via https as well
2023-01-10T12:36:28  <acidsys> so if I browse to a https website and it is loading remote content over http it is breaking my chain
2023-01-10T12:37:09  <LubosKocman[m]> I think we can't get over what fedora has already thought through
2023-01-10T12:37:18  <LubosKocman[m]> let's stick with what they have and then together we can ask for improvement
2023-01-10T12:37:29  <LubosKocman[m]> I think that would be a systematic approach
2023-01-10T12:43:54  <acidsys> already reconfigured
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2023-01-10T17:45:30  <acidsys> american pontifex has its highstate applied
2023-01-10T17:45:46  <cboltz> :-)
2023-01-10T18:29:41  <Luciano[m]> Nice!
2023-01-10T19:53:54  *** teepee_ is now known as teepee
2023-01-10T20:45:36  <cboltz> hellcp: will you answer to Michal's mail about susepaste.org, or shall I?
2023-01-10T20:46:22  <hellcp> I suspected you would ask, feel free
2023-01-10T20:46:58  <cboltz> well, since he setup the redirect, the old pastes are currently not reachable, which makes this somewhat urgent ;-)
2023-01-10T20:47:17  <cboltz> ok, I'll answer
2023-01-10T21:47:10  *** Allfather[m] is now known as Allfather0616[m]
2023-01-10T21:49:43  <hellcp> importing the pastes shouldn't be too difficult, including the forever ones, so the db dump would make sense