2022-09-30T02:02:29  <bmwiedemann[m]> pontifex2:/srv/bs/finished is out of disk space (all 400MB occupied)
2022-09-30T07:31:58  <pjessen> bmwiedemann[m]: yeah, just saw it now. see ticket 116650
2022-09-30T07:33:43  <bmwiedemann[m]> maybe we should grow that filesystem a bit
2022-09-30T07:34:03  <bmwiedemann[m]> changed to 800M in fstab
2022-09-30T07:43:03  <guillaume_g> Are metrics.opensuse.org files/configs in a github repo?
2022-09-30T07:49:50  <guillaume_g> Looks like I found it myself https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/tree/master/metrics
2022-09-30T07:50:28  <pjessen> bmwiedemann[m]: so it might take two weeks to fill it up :-)
2022-09-30T07:50:56  <bmwiedemann[m]> is there no cleanup cronjob?
2022-09-30T07:51:08  <pjessen> no. I don't understand it either.
2022-09-30T07:51:23  <bmwiedemann[m]> e.g. cron.daily find -mtime +5 -type f -delete
2022-09-30T07:51:45  <pjessen> yeah, it would be easy to do
2022-09-30T07:52:21  <pjessen> or just stop writing those files to finished, I don't see anyone using them
2022-09-30T07:53:19  <bmwiedemann[m]> the new /etc/cron.daily/cleanup.bs.finished should do the trick for now.
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2022-09-30T17:32:27  <acidsys> LCP0968[m]: do you know if we used to have #uyuni bridged? I wonder why it's empty now but maybe it always was
2022-09-30T17:33:18  <LCP0968[m]> I asked uyuni devs which channel to bridge and I never got the answer
2022-09-30T17:33:31  <LCP0968[m]> they were on gitter was it?
2022-09-30T17:33:50  <LCP0968[m]> we did have a bridge to gitter on #software-o-o
2022-09-30T17:34:30  <acidsys> oh interesting, I thought it was on matrix as opensuse-uyuni
2022-09-30T17:34:44  <acidsys> never used gitter, didn't even know that was a thing with openSUSE :D
2022-09-30T17:34:53  <LCP0968[m]> they may have moved since then
2022-09-30T17:35:12  <LCP0968[m]> Gitter kinda merged with matrix, no idea what's the status of it nowadays
2022-09-30T17:35:25  <LCP0968[m]> I haven't used it in a while
2022-09-30T17:35:57  <acidsys> I guess so .. ok well thanks for the input I will try to ask them .. worst case in Slack :P
2022-09-30T17:36:20  <LCP0968[m]> we can bridge to slack too
2022-09-30T17:36:56  <acidsys> ah no I meant I will ask in SUSE Slack if I can't find their preferred community channel
2022-09-30T17:37:00  <LCP0968[m]> I wanted to bridge to openSUSE Asia slack and got a "not really interested" kind of a response
2022-09-30T17:37:10  <LCP0968[m]> ah
2022-09-30T17:37:12  <LCP0968[m]> fair
2022-09-30T17:37:13  <acidsys> we have an official openSUSE Slack?
2022-09-30T17:37:25  <LCP0968[m]> 2.5
2022-09-30T17:37:38  <LCP0968[m]> I guess EOS doesn't really count as openSUSE
2022-09-30T17:37:43  <LCP0968[m]> it's more of a SUSE thing
2022-09-30T17:37:43  <acidsys> I only knew of the Rancher community slack
2022-09-30T17:38:00  <LCP0968[m]> but there's a dead openSUSE slack and an alive openSUSE Asia slack
2022-09-30T17:38:24  <LCP0968[m]> it's a really dead slack, I come on there every couple of months to see just how dead it is
2022-09-30T17:38:34  <acidsys> interesting
2022-09-30T17:38:40  <LCP0968[m]> it's very dead
2022-09-30T17:38:55  <acidsys> the cynical me says "that's for the better"
2022-09-30T17:39:24  <acidsys> but maybe I should cut it some... slack ...
2022-09-30T17:39:26  <LCP0968[m]> I agree, that's not where open source communities should be
2022-09-30T17:39:33  <LCP0968[m]> despite some of them are there
2022-09-30T17:40:15  <acidsys> yeah.. it kind of annoyed me with Rancher .. I get they're not really related to the openSUSE community but it would be cool if they weren't so distant
2022-09-30T17:41:15  <LCP0968[m]> isn't rancher like doing stuff for server hosting or whatever
2022-09-30T17:41:44  <LCP0968[m]> they could you know, have a setup with matrix-synapse and run it off of their solution
2022-09-30T17:41:49  <LCP0968[m]> show how perfectly stable it is
2022-09-30T17:42:33  <acidsys> true, I'm sure Synapse would make for a nice kubernetesized application
2022-09-30T17:42:55  <acidsys> but the same way you could argue SUSE could show off how stable they are by running their internal communication on SLES
2022-09-30T17:43:12  <LCP0968[m]> shh
2022-09-30T17:43:15  <acidsys> :D
2022-09-30T17:43:21  <LCP0968[m]> SUSE and running their own infrastructure amirite
2022-09-30T17:43:46  <LCP0968[m]> no better way to show commitment to open source than using office 365
2022-09-30T17:44:30  <acidsys> yea it's really bugging me .. but at least we (Infra) will always remain to have a purpose because of CC compliance not allowing certain things to utilize "the Cloud"
2022-09-30T17:45:00  <LCP0968[m]> and jira, so many talented perl developers on staff and couldn't contribute back to bugzilla to make it better instead
2022-09-30T17:45:27  <LCP0968[m]> insert old man yelling at clouds meme
2022-09-30T17:45:35  <acidsys> :-(
2022-09-30T17:45:41  <acidsys> we have that meme as one of the Slack reactions
2022-09-30T17:45:45  * acidsys pretens to insert
2022-09-30T17:46:18  <acidsys> one problem I see with it as well is that the more it gets used and normalized the more complicated it gets to get away from it again
2022-09-30T17:46:37  <acidsys> because these proprietary cloud tools really don't have _any_ good migration paths back to open source alternatives
2022-09-30T17:46:57  <LCP0968[m]> man, matrix uploads aren't working
2022-09-30T17:47:05  <LCP0968[m]> I will copy the discord link
2022-09-30T17:47:08  <acidsys> lol
2022-09-30T17:47:23  <acidsys> if you used MS Teams this wouldn't have happened!11
2022-09-30T17:47:28  <LCP0968[m]> those are the emotes on our discord https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/700799844754784420/1025463653736136734/Screenshot_20220930-194600.png
2022-09-30T17:47:56  <acidsys> ohh those are cute
2022-09-30T17:48:01  <LCP0968[m]> the greyed out ones are animated, can't use those without premium subscription
2022-09-30T17:48:15  <acidsys> I remember vaguely now when I opened discord twice it wanted me to click some of these to let me join one of the rooms
2022-09-30T17:48:34  <acidsys> premium subscription .. for that price I can buy another server
2022-09-30T17:48:36  <LCP0968[m]> yeah, that's our anti spam bot measure
2022-09-30T17:48:44  <LCP0968[m]> so true
2022-09-30T17:49:08  <LCP0968[m]> on telegram and matrix there are stickers on the other hand
2022-09-30T17:49:38  <LCP0968[m]> does that even show up on irc
2022-09-30T17:49:40  <acidsys> I used to help with an online community which was on IRC .. we had bots to prevent abuse and a lot of cool stuff. now they pay some solution to put a discord applet on their website ..
2022-09-30T17:49:54  <acidsys> don't think stickers show up
2022-09-30T17:50:05  <LCP0968[m]> that's a bummer
2022-09-30T17:50:07  <acidsys> but you can send me one in the snailmail and I'll stick it on my screen
2022-09-30T17:50:36  <darix-> LCP0968[m]: JFYI the matrix-synapse package with 1.68.0 is submitted and now also works without python3-setuptools-rust
2022-09-30T17:50:36  * JacobMichalskie[ uploaded an image: (35KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/opensuse.org/oThhpDkfAVUMHZAhJKbQDqGQ/Screenshot%20from%202022-09-30%2019-50-28.png >
2022-09-30T17:50:59  <JacobMichalskie[> we need rust on the server for other reasons anyway
2022-09-30T17:51:03  <acidsys> loading ...
2022-09-30T17:51:05  <acidsys> why's it libera.ems.host, didn't we use our own appservice
2022-09-30T17:51:19  <darix-> you dont need rust when you use the rpm
2022-09-30T17:51:25  <JacobMichalskie[> we do, that's their proxy
2022-09-30T17:51:36  <acidsys> "the connection has timed out" .. guess I won't have stickers today :D
2022-09-30T17:51:39  <darix-> osc rq show -d 1007283
2022-09-30T17:51:41  <JacobMichalskie[> not for synapse
2022-09-30T17:51:47  <JacobMichalskie[> for another thing
2022-09-30T17:52:07  <JacobMichalskie[> https://matrix.opensuse.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/opensuse.org/oThhpDkfAVUMHZAhJKbQDqGQ
2022-09-30T17:52:18  <JacobMichalskie[> that's the link on our instance
2022-09-30T17:52:23  <acidsys> woo!
2022-09-30T17:52:33  <acidsys> my favourite is the 503 geeko
2022-09-30T17:52:57  <JacobMichalskie[> the upside down one?
2022-09-30T17:53:05  <JacobMichalskie[> I wanted to replace it at some point
2022-09-30T17:53:21  <acidsys> the one on the armchair with the coffee mug.. I *think* it's on the haproxie's 503 page
2022-09-30T17:53:33  <acidsys> I kind of want a 404 one holding a map and a magnifying glass
2022-09-30T17:53:38  <JacobMichalskie[> it's on the static page https://static.opensuse.org/
2022-09-30T17:53:39  <JacobMichalskie[> I put it there
2022-09-30T17:53:49  <acidsys> oooh then I mixed those up
2022-09-30T17:54:01  <JacobMichalskie[> well, I drew all of those, so you can possibly get that if I find the time to draw it
2022-09-30T17:54:22  <acidsys> o you did? that's pretty cool!
2022-09-30T17:54:34  <acidsys> do you draw in some digital app?
2022-09-30T17:54:45  <JacobMichalskie[> inkscape
2022-09-30T17:54:48  <acidsys> nice
2022-09-30T17:55:40  <JacobMichalskie[> all the wallpapers we get from SUSE have adobe cruft in the files, they could also maybe use some open source there >:D
2022-09-30T17:56:02  <acidsys> heh .. and all the branding is hosted with ImageRelay.com ...
2022-09-30T17:56:30  <JacobMichalskie[> I have been working on some of our own wallpapers for future releases though https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/issues/135
2022-09-30T17:56:44  <acidsys> when I applied it asked me to choose between CV upload PDF or DOCX ... I didn't dare ask about ODF
2022-09-30T17:57:10  <JacobMichalskie[> if you work exclusively with open source tooling on artwork stuff, you really wouldn't be able to work for SUSE
2022-09-30T17:57:20  <acidsys> o right I think lubos mentioned the new wallpapers some days ago
2022-09-30T17:57:20  <JacobMichalskie[> you would have probably some luck at RH though
2022-09-30T17:58:16  <acidsys> yeah it's kind of a shame but then again I don't want to complain too much.. small steps..
2022-09-30T17:58:20  <JacobMichalskie[> I had some dark mode designs too
2022-09-30T17:58:44  <pedja> aren't windows and macos only supported OS's by SUSE IT, with WIP to add Leap to the mix? :)
2022-09-30T17:59:11  <acidsys> that's correct, but engineers can choose the OS they run themselves
2022-09-30T17:59:21  <acidsys> most of my colleagues run openSUSE but there's also the odd Ubuntu user in the mix
2022-09-30T17:59:49  <acidsys> you just can't open a ticket and be like "my computer stopped working"
2022-09-30T17:59:53  <pedja> 'odd Ubuntu user' sounds about right
2022-09-30T18:00:06  <acidsys> heh they're cool though ;)
2022-09-30T18:00:56  <JacobMichalskie[> I guess matrix doesn't want my wallpaper mockups
2022-09-30T18:01:36  <LCP0968[m]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700799844754784420/1025467369730093196/Screenshot_from_2022-09-12_21-39-20.png
2022-09-30T18:02:13  <acidsys> nice themes
2022-09-30T18:02:24  <JacobMichalskie[> some harder and softer variants, I do want a nice set of transitions between light and dark mode
2022-09-30T18:02:46  <acidsys> dark mode is one of the great inventions of the internet
2022-09-30T18:03:17  <JacobMichalskie[> thorsten wasn't a fan when I took dark mode screenshots in a pr
2022-09-30T18:03:33  <acidsys> lol why's that
2022-09-30T18:03:36  <JacobMichalskie[> https://github.com/thkukuk/rpm2docserv/pull/1
2022-09-30T18:03:48  <JacobMichalskie[> you can read for yourself
2022-09-30T18:08:52  <acidsys> hah well fair enough, to each their own preference
2022-09-30T18:09:06  <acidsys> that's why apps which integrate with the system choice are quite nice
2022-09-30T18:09:27  <acidsys> even though I _personally_ like themes defaulting to dark mode ..
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