2022-06-20T00:59:12  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], I changed the category order, but still seems to be staying 'as entered'?
2022-06-20T00:59:38  <SasiOlin[m]> hmm
2022-06-20T01:01:08  <SasiOlin[m]> `fixed category positions` setting
2022-06-20T01:30:56  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], ok, so adjust how it's wanted, then change the setting back.
2022-06-20T01:31:26  <SasiOlin[m]> why not keep it on?
2022-06-20T01:33:19  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], you need to check it to adjust the order
2022-06-20T01:33:44  <SasiOlin[m]> yeah, I know that, but why would you set it back?
2022-06-20T01:34:34  <malcolmlewis> there are more categories to add, once that's finished with can set it back to default
2022-06-20T01:35:18  <malcolmlewis> what about language packs?
2022-06-20T01:36:40  <SasiOlin[m]> discourse supports a lot of languages
2022-06-20T01:36:56  <SasiOlin[m]> I did change the settings so that it should use your browser language
2022-06-20T01:36:59  <SasiOlin[m]> idk if it's still on
2022-06-20T01:37:33  <SasiOlin[m]> looks like it is
2022-06-20T01:38:54  <malcolmlewis> ok, I meant language specific categories like the current vB setup, or is that a thing of the past?
2022-06-20T01:40:23  <SasiOlin[m]> I mean, language specific categories will be there
2022-06-20T01:40:38  <SasiOlin[m]> I am still working on importing all of the content from vb
2022-06-20T01:40:53  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], so do they import? Or do they need adding?
2022-06-20T01:41:08  <SasiOlin[m]> they will import
2022-06-20T01:41:42  <malcolmlewis> So the stuff I added will go, hopefully yes ;)
2022-06-20T01:41:51  <SasiOlin[m]> I have tested it before: in total it will import the following: forums (categories), threads, posts, direct messages, users
2022-06-20T01:42:27  <SasiOlin[m]> oh and groups
2022-06-20T01:42:44  <SasiOlin[m]> avatars and attachments as well
2022-06-20T01:42:51  <malcolmlewis> hmm there should be none of those groups?
2022-06-20T01:43:24  <SasiOlin[m]> I haven't done any importing yet
2022-06-20T01:43:42  <SasiOlin[m]> so quite expectedly there's none of it there right now
2022-06-20T01:44:02  <SasiOlin[m]> and also bans will me migrated too looking at the code rn
2022-06-20T01:44:23  <malcolmlewis> yup, I realized that ;)
2022-06-20T01:45:04  <SasiOlin[m]> one issue I remember there being was that permissions to the categories and threads weren't migrated properly
2022-06-20T01:45:24  <SasiOlin[m]> so after the import we will need to go through the categories and hide the ones that need to be hidden
2022-06-20T01:45:51  <SasiOlin[m]> otherwise I haven't really noticed all that much, but that's still to be tested
2022-06-20T01:46:56  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], my thought during migration is to close the forum, close all threads, then open/set the few we can see that are active and ask users if they which there thread to be opened.
2022-06-20T01:47:15  <malcolmlewis> wish their
2022-06-20T01:48:08  <malcolmlewis> there is a lot that can be closed, especially E.oL. ones
2022-06-20T01:48:17  <SasiOlin[m]> oh yeah
2022-06-20T01:48:45  <SasiOlin[m]> I was also kinda planning on creating a set of redirects from the old links to the new ones, since it's technically possible
2022-06-20T01:49:01  <SasiOlin[m]> discourse outputs a file during migration that would let us do that
2022-06-20T01:50:10  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], I say the more we close the better, then can just deal with a few with respect to permissions etc?
2022-06-20T01:50:39  <SasiOlin[m]> well, closing isn't shadowing them, they would still be visible, no?
2022-06-20T01:51:01  <SasiOlin[m]> the problem I see is visibility of internal mod and admin subforums
2022-06-20T01:51:05  <malcolmlewis> It will be easier to deal with the exceptions, rather than the rule
2022-06-20T01:51:29  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], can it be excluded?
2022-06-20T01:52:11  <SasiOlin[m]> uh, sure, we could just not migrate those, but that seems more difficult than just switching them to only visible to mods/admins post migration
2022-06-20T01:53:00  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], ok, if it's not a problem, then rock on, but if it does, I think we can live with that
2022-06-20T01:54:30  <SasiOlin[m]> switching visibility for categories in discourse is fairly simple anyway https://discourse.opensuse.org/c/get-technical-help-here/edit/security
2022-06-20T02:02:17  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], ahh ok :)
2022-06-20T02:02:54  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], so is there a manual login outside of the SSO? That's what we have in vB
2022-06-20T02:03:17  <SasiOlin[m]> no, everything is done through sso
2022-06-20T02:04:04  <malcolmlewis> Hmmm
2022-06-20T02:05:02  <malcolmlewis> so when users get imported, it won't include any manual passwords that exist for Forum Staff?
2022-06-20T02:05:10  <SasiOlin[m]> it will not
2022-06-20T02:05:30  <malcolmlewis> ok, then that's good, won't cause issues
2022-06-20T02:58:18  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], megamenu is working now...
2022-06-20T02:58:53  <SasiOlin[m]> yeah, as I said it will work depending on how the page loads
2022-06-20T02:59:07  <malcolmlewis> SasiOlin[m], and now it's not...oh well
2022-06-20T02:59:20  <SasiOlin[m]> yeah, as expected
2022-06-20T02:59:27  <malcolmlewis> I sent an email, so maybe something is in the works
2022-06-20T09:09:47  <pjessen> trying to sudo on chip, and I keep getting "invalid password" ?
2022-06-20T11:36:26  <cboltz> pjessen: looks like someone updated chip to Tumbleweed, but didn't run highstate afterwards
2022-06-20T11:36:44  <cboltz> one of the results was that pam_sss.so was missing from the pam config
2022-06-20T11:37:00  <cboltz> I did the highstate, and sudo works again :-)
2022-06-20T11:37:51  <cboltz> in exchange we got an entertaining "hostusage" (as listed in salt, so technically correct ;-)
2022-06-20T11:38:18  <cboltz> (MR 558 will change it back to the text that was manually put there before)
2022-06-20T12:32:30  <SasiOlin[m]> huh? why does chip need to be on tumbleweed?
2022-06-20T18:06:34  <pjessen> cboltz: thanks for taking a look
2022-06-20T18:07:22  <pjessen> SasiOlin[m]: yeah, good question.  and is that in line with our policy or SLA or whatever it is
2022-06-20T18:08:22  <cboltz> well, as long as whoever did the upgrade also regularly runs zypper dup, I don't see a problem
2022-06-20T18:08:37  <cboltz> but making sure everything still works after the upgrade would have been nice ;-)
2022-06-20T18:10:00  <SasiOlin[m]> we should use tumbleweed on some python services machines because 3.6 is unmaintained and it's getting really difficult to run those services updates-wise
2022-06-20T18:10:41  <SasiOlin[m]> but I think there has to be justification for that, because tumbleweed will require more maintenance considering it's updated more often
2022-06-20T18:10:58  <cboltz> that, or Leap 15.4 which IIRC has python 3.10 - unfortunately only the base package, not all the additional modules
2022-06-20T18:15:39  <pjessen> Hmm, chip is only DNS right?  I do wonder why it would need tumbleweed.
2022-06-20T18:16:01  <cboltz> right, and I also wonder
2022-06-20T18:19:00  <pjessen> judging by the log, I would guess it was Lars doing the update.
2022-06-20T18:19:32  <cboltz> I would also guess so, even without looking at the log ;-)
2022-06-20T18:20:50  <pjessen> yeah, you're right :-)
2022-06-20T18:34:35  <acidsys> maybe they wanted to move to a Python 3.10 based DNS server :P
2022-06-20T18:52:39  <cboltz> ;-)
2022-06-20T18:52:59  <cboltz> silly (but serious) question - does pdns or its web interface use python at all?
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2022-06-20T19:40:20  <SasiOlin[m]> leap 15.3 also had newer python
2022-06-20T19:40:46  <SasiOlin[m]> but having to build all of the packages on your own is too much hassle compared to the cost of switching to tumbleweed
2022-06-20T19:42:07  <cboltz> right, the pain level increases with the number of additional packages / python modules you need
2022-06-20T20:23:19  <acidsys> cboltz: pdns does not ship with a web interface
2022-06-20T20:23:57  <cboltz> yeah, but we have one
2022-06-20T20:24:00  <acidsys> It uses Python mostly for unit tests at compile time
2022-06-20T20:24:09  <acidsys> that must be third party (like Opera dnsui or PowerDNS-Admin)
2022-06-20T20:24:11  <cboltz> (well, in theory - at the moment I only get "bad gateway)
2022-06-20T20:24:36  <cboltz> IIRC it's PowerDNS-Admin
2022-06-20T20:25:07  <acidsys> ah ok that one does use Python
2022-06-20T22:19:29  <darix-> SasiOlin[m]: JFYI https://matrix.org/blog/2022/05/04/0-34-0-security-release-for-matrix-appservice-irc-high-severity