2022-05-21T00:37:07  <mdogg> LCP0968[m]: Is it possible to use Gajim rather than my browser to connect to the openSUSE Support channel at https://chat.opensuse.org/#/room/#support:opensuse.org ?    If so, what would I use for the server and username?  I've tried logging in with the same LDAP credentials I use to login with Firefox, and I've tried entering the following servers into Gajim but I cannot connect:  chat.opensuse.org, matrix.opensuse.org, and opensuse.org
2022-05-21T00:38:02  <LCP0968[m]> sadly, most matrix clients don't support sso login which we use
2022-05-21T00:38:13  <LCP0968[m]> you will have to raise the issue with the developer
2022-05-21T00:38:13  <mdogg> Ohhh
2022-05-21T00:38:42  <LCP0968[m]> alternatively maybe there's a way to auth with token
2022-05-21T00:38:43  <LCP0968[m]> but yeah
2022-05-21T00:38:50  <mdogg> Is there another stand-alone client that you can recommend?
2022-05-21T00:39:04  <LCP0968[m]> I use element
2022-05-21T00:39:10  <mdogg> Ah ok.. I'll check it out.
2022-05-21T00:40:17  <mdogg> I'm not married to Gajim - I just don't like using my browser for chat.. heh
2022-05-21T00:42:54  <mdogg> Looks like it's updated pretty regularly.  Thanks for the head's up.
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2022-05-21T05:42:37  <bmwiedemann> mdogg: our matrix SSO uses OIDC
2022-05-21T06:03:48  <mdogg> Thanks bmwiedemann!  There doesn't appear to be a way for Gajim to authenticate that way.  It wants to send the login credentials directly to the XMPP server, and I'm not even sure that chat.opensuse.org is an xmpp server.  But that's ok -- LCP0968[m] said that he uses Element to connect to it so I'll check that out in a bit.
2022-05-21T06:04:21  <LCP0968[m]> they
2022-05-21T06:04:24  <mdogg> Actually, I have been reading a bit about Element during the past few weeks anyway because I've been interested in finding an alternative to WhatsApp.
2022-05-21T06:04:27  <LCP0968[m]> it's a matrix server
2022-05-21T06:04:48  <bmwiedemann[m]> matrix != XMPP
2022-05-21T06:07:13  <mdogg> I wonder if the reason why it doesn't work is because I am electing to use my openSUSE SSO credentials rather than creating a new account on chat.opensuse org..
2022-05-21T06:07:49  <mdogg> That is the server name, correct?  Or is it matrix.opensuse.org ?
2022-05-21T06:16:23  <mdogg> Nah, my username already exists.  I'll check Element out - no biggie.
2022-05-21T08:38:44  <mdogg> Thanks for recommending Element-desktop guys.  It's much better than using my browser to connect.
2022-05-21T08:38:49  <mdogg> CHeers!